Bloated Axolotl? Please help

[Alioth]

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[emdalliance]

Yeah she's pretty chunky in real life, the pictures don't do her much justice. I'll post another so you can see her size. I have no clue exactly how old she is as I've rescued her along with her tank mate (she'd bitten all his legs off three had already grown back and she'd chewed at them but not off and she stole all the food so he's like a stick.. But getting fatter now and is just regrowing his last leg that was completely bitten off). They're both super happy and healthy and I have a baby copper who is the sweetest. But judging by their length my rescue two are definitely adults.
Glad the meds are doing some good! I really hope they do pull through... Please keep me updating I'm really rooting for these guys. sorry I can't be of much help, I would have obviously recommended antibiotics for the bacteria, but clever you had a vet on the case straight away (there's none around here for me, so I'm screwed if I ever need it).

Here are the pictures of my lotls.

He's the one who got starved and had some leg issues haha! He's about 10/11 inches

She's the speckled wildtype I showed you before. She's about 10 inches or so.
I'd show you my baby too but I'm unsure as to how many photos we are supposed to upload? I've used other forums that don't even allow it due to space or something so..

Most axolotls have "necks" a dip in from their belly to their head, where it goes slender.. You can tell a lotl is skinny when they're just straight up and down and no big curvy belly.

But yeah, I'm thinking the antibiotic will do a world of good, I saw a lotl who was literally the size of a big tennis ball and she recovered using antibiotic to my amazement so! ??


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[tipnatee]

I actually think that the jelly stuff came out of her cloaca. It seems more like she tried to go to the toilet but since she hasnt eaten for a while this was all there was. I think this because there were other little dirtbits as well. If you find something about the swollen face please let me know. I found Some topics on here that described the same thing but in these cases the axies died soon without knowing the cause or the story was not finished. So I cant do anything with these...


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That does made a lot of sense , still keeping her in fridge?

 

[Alioth]

That does made a lot of sense , still keeping her in fridge?

Yes and she has been for a full week now. This is her today. The cloudy water is from the medicine as are the little white particles on her as well. She gets fresh water everyday (same temperature as in the fridge)


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[emdalliance]

How are they both today?


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[Alioth]

No changes, just went to the pharmacist to ask for a amfibian ringers solution and we can pick this up this evening. We are going to try this on Pachua.


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[tipnatee]

any update??

 

[Alioth]

any update??

Not a lot of changes ...
Pachua was in te solution for 1hour and 30 minutes, not sure how long I can leave them in there. He is still the same. We will do it again this evening. We think we are going to put him in the fridge as well tomorrow since we are expecting another heat wave this week.
Ningyo is in the amfibian solution as I write this. I think she looks a tiny little bit better bloating wise. I don't know if this is true or if I am just getting used to the look of it



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[tipnatee]

Is the ringer solution your vet use is the same as holtferer's solution? I wonder if adding extra potassium chlorine might reduce the swelling , one of the main ingredient of holtferer's solution is potassium chlorine. But ask your vet about it first of course.

 

[Alioth]

We indeed added potassium chlorine!
The fact that there is no progress is quite frustrating. On the other hand they are not worsening at all and that gives hope.

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[tipnatee]

Well I guess that means that it's working ! Any bigger I would have to keep my eyes close. :errr:I believe as long as your axolotl still have color there are still fighting chance left . .

 

[tipnatee]

I was checking many years back to see any post similar to yours . There's one particular that is very close to what yours experienced . Although it Started off as a fungus infection, the swell was brought by extreme stress.

http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...axolotl/104562-extremely-swollen-axolotl.html

 

[emdalliance]

Just keep checking for anything different like redness - septicaemia..

I'm gonna read that thread now! Well done for finding one!


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[tipnatee]

I'm still putting all my bet with God on Pachua to survive . This year heat had already kill far too many precious axies. It's far too tragic to accept .

 

[Alioth]

I have found a few topics with pictures that are like Pachua and Ningyo. Sadly all of them died or there was no further update. Those who died seemed to detoriate fast, unlike ours. I can say that ours have not worsened in the last 1,5 week. It gives hope but only a little... They are both in the fridge now, Ningyo since more than a week , Pachua since today. We have a couple of very hot days and I didn't want to take the risk with Pachua. He is in the ringers solution, Ningyo is having the last day of her treatment against the protozoan.
I will keep Pachua in the fridge untill friday ( end of hot weather) . I hope we see some improvement by then. Thanks for all the support you guys are giving us!

I also want to add that seeing them side by side in the fridge, the difference in severity is very clear. Pachua is very alert and gives angry looks as if he asks why he isn't in his tank. Ningyo on the other hand just sites quietly in her tank and her head is a lot bigger...

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[tipnatee]

Wow sounds like the swell has gone down at least some enough to be able to give the expression, that's awesome!

 

[tipnatee]

How is Pachua?

 

[Susan360]

hi,
I'm a new member seeing your post, my axolotl looks in very much the same condition as yours. Seriously bloated all over. She hasn't been eating for about ten days. I'm in the UK and it may be that the warm weather has caused this. I'm near the coast so we don't usually get any heat, but just lately it has been very warm. Although it's much cooler this morning.

She's about 5 or 6 years old at least and been in good health up till now. Her two tank mates seem alright. I've got her into a separate tub in holfreters solution at 40% at a lower temperature than the tank.

I wondered if you and the other forum members can advise on treatment from your experience. Would it help to 'fridge her' or you mention a dextrose solution? I don't live anywhere near a vet who specialises.

 

[Alioth]

Hi we tried dextrose solution, amfibian ringers solution and a cure against protozoan. Meanwhile they were both in the fridge and nothing changed. The swelling didn't go down at all. I have put Pachua back in the tank yesterday since the warm weather is over. Ningyo, more severe case, is in the fridge for 2,5 weeks now. I don't know what to do next. Both have not eaten the last 2 to 3 weeks


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[emdalliance]

I wouldn't worry about them not eating they can go a long time. Especially in the fridge. Maybe send some new pictures? The swelling might look the same to you because you see them every day! It may have gone down slightly and we'd be able to tell.


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