This guy should be jailed or shot - axolotl cruelty

I dare not watch but if it involves cruelty then he should be shot arrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Why? That´s a captive bred animal, how is it wrong to eat it but ok to eat chicken/cow/pig??
As long as the animal was sacrificed in an apropriate way i have absolutely no problem with what those people have done. In fact i´d be curious to taste a crispy axolotl....yum.

I have to say i dislike it when people make special pleadings for animals they like. It doesn´t magically become wrong if the animal is cute or ok if it´s a cow in some slaughter house you don´t know about. Unless someone is a level 5 vegan, arguing that eating axolotls is wrong is just absurd.
 
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Azhael said:
Why? That´s a captive bred animal, how is it wrong to eat it but ok to eat chicken/cow/pig??
As long as the animal was sacrificed in an apropriate way i have absolutely no problem with what those people have done. In fact i´d be curious to taste a crispy axolotl....yum.

I have to say i dislike it when people make special pleadings for animals they like. It doesn´t magically become wrong if the animal is cute or ok if it´s a cow in some slaughter house you don´t know about.
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cows, pigs and cickens etc are bred to be eaten, axolotls are not.

Hopefully everyone that views this video reports it for animal cruelty and gets it removed.
 
I don't care what animal it is, if it's classified as endangered it should be illegal to do something like this. This person\restaurant should be reported to the wild life conservation group.

@Azhael, normally I would agree with you. Heck, I don't mind that certain Asian cultures eat dogs and cats.

But, currently Axolotls are labeled as endangered. For example in my Country it wouldn't matter if it was bred in captivity but it is wrong to cook and eat a bald eagle.
 
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Axolotls are farmed in some places in asia exclusively for food, just like we do chicken. No difference.
It´s completely irrelevant that the species is endangered, because nobody is going to eat a wild axolotl (hopefully) and no domestic axolotl has any bearing on what happens to those in the wild. Those axolotls are most definitely domestic and captive bred (plus in the video it says the guy has been breeding axolotls for 40 years). Wild Gallus gallus are threatened with extinction...that doesn´t make eating chicken wrong.
 
I don't think anyone likes to see their pet consumed, be it a chicken or an axolotl.
In the wild axolotl are endangered, but in captivity they are not. As Azhael states, they are in some countries bred as a source of food.
To be honest I didn't see anything cruel in the video either , the axolotl where already dead when cooked.
 
Azhael said:
Axolotls are farmed in some places in asia exclusively for food, just like we do chicken. No difference.
It´s completely irrelevant that the species is endangered, because nobody is going to eat a wild axolotl (hopefully) and no domestic axolotl has any bearing on what happens to those in the wild. Those axolotls are most definitely domestic and captive bred (plus in the video it says the guy has been breeding axolotls for 40 years). Wild Gallus gallus are threatened with extinction...that doesn´t make eating chicken wrong.
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If there is a specific subspecies of Gallus ( you mentioned Gallus gallus) that is classified as endangered I would expect the same thing.

I know little about the entire genus of ambystoma, but If one or many of its subspecies are classified as endangered I expect their lives to remain protected, wild or captive.

Sure, I expect some cultures to eat animals from Gallus (I gaurentee all of us has,) but are we eating an endangered subspecies on a wide-spread basis? If there is a specific endangered type of chicken that a culture is eating I shed the same type of dissapointment upon them.
 
As Azhael points out their endangered status relates only to wild populations. Eating cb axolotls has zero impact on their status in the wild.

If you want to get upset about Ambystomatid cruelty perhaps you should look a little closer to home at the US practice of sticking wild collected tiger salamanders on a hook as fish bait - whilst they are still alive.... Give me a deep fried axolotl any day over a slow painful death impaled on a hook.
 
I am not coming at this with a moral perspective, obviously we all feel differntly about eating something that we hold as pets(I'm fine with this.) I'm coming at this with preservation acts in mind.

The 1946 International Whaling Convention (IWC) and the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) created documents that are against whaling on account of their status in the wild. I don't care if someone founded a whale farm 50 years ago, I see it wrong to disobey these charters and harvest these creatures for food. Some countries still fail to recognize this ban, but I believe it wrong to disobey them.

Same goes for Axolotls. My opinion does not stem from them being pets, but their status as endangered.

I highly doubt any conservation committee is going to be knocking on their door, but if I were them I could not with good conscience eat something that is classified as it is.

Again my opinion, If a governing body declares something, such as the Endangered Species Acts in many countries, I find it wrong to purposely kill any of those speicies either for food or sport regardless where they are found.

I'm not condemning those who do, but what happens if the wild populations become extinct? Would it then be wrong to raise and farm these speicies for food? Where is the line drawn?

Just like the whaling, the treaty doesn't outright ban whaling but the countries who signed it shun the practice. So frowns are given all around.

At the end of the day I guess it's your own business if you fail to follow laws or treaties about these issues.

But that's just me.
 
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the guy probably will die,as everybody seemed to miss how filthy that kitchen looked, i spotted this vid a few days ago and was disgusted, not that i have a strong view as can see both sides, as i eat anything fishy, but none of my axolotls will ever end up on someones plate,,,,
 
In Australia our natiaonal emblem the Kangaroo is sold as meat in the supermarkets so I can understand that animals are livestock, I think the priority is to make sure that all sentient beings are treated humanly and with respect. If something is to be eaten as food it should used efficiently and wisely.

I personally would not eat an axolotl and I hope that this animal died in a way that involved minimal pain, and that it was not a wild one from an endangered habitat.

To me the word habitat encompasses the animal and it's surrounding environment that makes it's life cycle part of nature , and possible.

I would be concerned greatly if a native food source of one endangered species was depleted without due consideration for the environmental impact.
 
Now im curious of what an axolotl tastes like :p I wouldnt eat an axolotl i dont like any kind of food from the water.
 
I agree with Azhael here. While I do have a deep affection for Axolotls, I also have a deep affection for cows. I'm not going to stop eating burgers because it's a cow. I'd also be interested in eating Axolotl, just to try it.
I would be upset if the Axolotl was taken from the wild or cooked alive, but it wasn't.
There is nothing inhumane here.
 
Title of this post is more concerning than the content of the video in my opinion.
 
There is nothing cruel about this video and no one should be jailed or shot unless the animals were slowly tortured to death, and even then no one will be thrown in jail for torturing a salamander. I hate to be the person to burst anyone's bubble but they ARE salamanders. Don't get me wrong, I have an unhealthy obsession with axolotls and raise as many as I possibly can, but come on people!

Axolotls are EXTREMELY common in captivity. I could eat 500 of my juveniles this morning for breakfast and the captive population wouldn't suffer in the least. We aren't talking about giant pandas or manatees here. These animals are what I like to call "explosive breeders" and are about as hardy as goldfish.

I find it hilarious that people get so upset over this one video of a guy eating axolotls, and claim it to be animal cruelty, yet there are countless horror stories of users on this site with axolotls who live long (well, sometimes), miserable lives and eventually die due to improper husbandry...which can only be accurately described as neglect. So it's ok for members to literally love their axolotls to death, but this guy who has clearly been taking excellent care of his animals is chastised for eating 2 out of however many hundreds (or thousands) he's raised in the past 40 years?! That's ridiculous.

If anyone should be jailed for cruelty it should be the people who ignore advice and cause the animals to suffer because they are too incompetent to keep them properly.
 
As a vegan, I see this as no different then people eating cows or chickens. The preservation issue though is all based on perspective. Due to breeding and preference, many species of chickens are nearing extinction. Is there not a preservation issue there?

Breeding your own captive axolotls for the purpose of eating, is no different then breeding any other animal (cow, poultry, etc) for the purpose of eating. It has no affect whatsoever on the wild populace as that animal is not apart of it.

To be completely honest though, eating axolotl? Not in a million years! Just ewwwww...
 
I would like mine extra crispy, yummy!!! We eat animals every day, unless you're a vegetarian (one of the proper ones who doesn't eat fish, chicken, lobster ,shrimp etc lol they crack me up), acceptable food types are often culturally determined and if people dont want to eat certain animals the answer is dont. I will be writing to Mac Donalds with a request for an extension to their menu.
 
GazerOfStars said:
I don't care what animal it is, if it's classified as endangered it should be illegal to do something like this. This person\restaurant should be reported to the wild life conservation group.

@Azhael, normally I would agree with you. Heck, I don't mind that certain Asian cultures eat dogs and cats.

But, currently Axolotls are labeled as endangered. For example in my Country it wouldn't matter if it was bred in captivity but it is wrong to cook and eat a bald eagle.
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You can't compare a Bald Eagle to an Axolotl. The Bald Eagle is the National Animal of the USA. The Axolotl has no national stage here. Laboratories breed them and use them for experiments. So they do hold a experimental (stage) and a spotlight in the pet trade. Back at home in Mexico they're used as a food/medicine source. Bald Eagles, Axolotls no comparison. The general understanding of a Bald Eagle is "wow what an amazing thing to see" and lets protect/respect it. General understanding of Axolotls is pet/experiment/food/ect.

Axolotls get their limbs cut off just so people can observe its ability to regenerate. I think thats more cruel than eating it. There are some members on here that are willing to try to eat an Axolotl. I'm not against it but I wouldn't pursue it. If it came down to it I'd have to try a GFP/jellyfish Axolotl for sure! Seafood salamander!!

If you don't like something attack the core of it, not the ripple effect.
 
Correction: Axolotls are not endangered (as listed on the ESA), but their trade is controlled by the Convention on International Trade of Endangered Species (CITES), appendix II. This means that their wild populations are in danger (and not because we ate them all), and their trade is restricted to people with lots of money to buy paperwork.

There's no possibility of axolotls becoming extinct, at least in captivity. Unfortunately, this is the case for many animals; wild populations are imperiled or gone, but there is a healthy captive population. Ever eaten salmon? Unless you caught it yourself (and it wasn't stocked!), it was farmed. Wild salmon have been so overfished that they're at risk of becoming endangered, so we eat farmed. No one goes out and shoots wild cows because, well, there aren't any wild cows now. Just farmed ones.
 
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