This guy should be jailed or shot - axolotl cruelty

Sometimes people get irrational and scary when something upsets them, just human nature, and I dont think anyone should be judged for it not that im saying anyone is judging because if i didnt write that im sure this post would blow up again.

Why can we not talk on forums and not pick holes in every sentence which is written, it would make these places a much more valuable place to learn from rather than reading pages of arguments in most cases.
 
People seem to use unique or creepy things for medicine. The Chinese use turtles shells, Africans use rhino horns, and Aztecs use Axolotls.

yeah..rhino horn, ground-up antlers, tiger gall bladders....unfortunately, much of this "traditional" medicine is utter nonsense based on superstition and has led to the overhunting and extinction of many species (latest casualty: the western black rhino... tigers will be next....)

compared to that, the eating of a captive-bred axolotl isn't gonna get me worried. I wonder though, if it tastes squishy and blubbery....gah.
 
The awkward thing is no one outwardly attacks one another for killing Axolotls on here. I can honestly say a lot of Axolotls that are being reported dead on here that aren't natural deaths. Its due to ignorant/bad care which is considered cruel. I think its cruel that Axolotls are being reported dead on Caudata.org every day! Don't you guys?


I agree definitely its cruel. No-one likes to hear of an animal suffer due to not keeping them well enough. But the risk with attacking other members is the person getting upset and then not giving the axolotl the right treatment because they think they are right.

Sad really but thats the beautiful world we live in!

I also know that I made some mistakes with my axolotl as I got her because she was going to be killed because she was eating the other ones legs off (she has a very fat head and looks different to my wildtype) . So my boyfriend rushed her home, as he works there both knowing nothing about axies, but didnt want her to die. The shop now knows that they need to be kept on sand but at the time unfortunately only had information on where they came from printed out and their foods needed etc.

Which led to panic of not caring for her properly with gravel for a day or so, then after researching frantically she is bigger and more beautiful than ever. (and no gravel!) changed to sand after a few days.

That mistake was made and corrected and I wouldnt of liked someone attacking me, even though I found out myself. We all make mistakes, but sometimes just take it back to where you got it from if your having problems, and pet shops should definitely have some caudata print outs on how to care for axolotls, but its money for most companys not caring.
 
Coming from a family that frequently treats livestock as pets, then kills and eats them, an example being of a black lamb that was a runt and taken in by the family, only to be killed and served for dinner by my grandfather a month later simply because we had gotten too attached to the animal, this sort of thing is disgusting and normal at the same time. To be honest, I am questioning not the man's eating of a "pet", but his treatment of his animals if he can, after 40 years of breeding them for pets, sit down and eat one. It seems weird to me, but I suppose some can do it.

As for all the reasons mentioned earlier as to why this isn't a cruel act, I agree. I know plenty of families who rear their own chickens, pigs, and cows to eat because they refuse to accept the cruel treatment of livestock by large meat companies, and they at least know that the meal on their table had a good life while it lasted - that's something that I would never do, but can never blame someone else for.

Though, the reaction of the poster to this is more concerning than the actual video. Perhaps you should look at it this way: We as enthusiasts, know axolotls to be salamanders, amphibious, and I believe to be somewhat intelligent and much more exciting than fish. However, anybody who has ever first set eyes on my axolotls say "Wow, that's a cool fish." We eat fish. If they are seen more as fish than anything else, it makes perfect sense that it is easy for people to eat them. They are also known in the Asian food industries, but not as well as people on here make it out to be. They're more common as pets. Also, the people the food industry serves don't always know what they're eating:

RARE Sushi (Mexican Walking Fish ) - YouTube

But... That doesn't change the fact that i can barely sit through this video:
Japanese guy who enjoy killing and eating axolote!

So, yeah. Pretty gross, but I suppose as long as they're actually humanely killed, and bred for food, then it's not up to us to say anything about it.
 
At the end of the day nobody likes to see their pets get eaten, just like you wouldnt like to see a family member get eaten

I dunno, off the top o' my head I can think of at least 3-4 family members that I wouldn't at all mind to get eaten. Be my guest!
 
Ok so that link you posted, I can watch it because im not signed up to youtube, but i saw enough from the preview it looks disgusting. If humanely killed I have nothing to say even though every part of my body doesnt agree with it, if not killed humanely Id quite like to do the same to them.

I am hippocritical however as I eat meat that comes from shops and I really dont know how they are treated, although wherever I can and when money provides I like to buy free range stuff, and maybe if prices were lowered it could become the only thing you can buy but I doubt that would ever happen.
 
I dunno, off the top o' my head I can think of at least 3-4 family members that I wouldn't at all mind to get eaten. Be my guest!

Hmmm interesting offer Molch, may have to take you up on that offer haha!

Although cannibalism isnt something Id like to try doesnt it make you go crazy??

Is that a psycholigical thing the going crazy , if you didnt know you ate it would you still go crazy and ill ?

Just to clarify Im not a cannibal, and i dont want to eat anybodys legs lol :D
 
Oh, no, sheena, please don´t take my post as a personal complaint from what you said, not at all. I realize what you said and what the intention was. I just felt like commenting on it because sadly i do think that sometimes people are seen to be unattached to their animals because they don´t treat them in the "omg my pet is so cuuuuuuuuute" way. I resent the phenomenon, not you xD

The thing about going crazy if you eat human meat is a problem that arised in certain cannibalistic communities that ate infected people. It´s called Kuru and it´s similar to the mad cow disease (the culprit is a protein). As far as i know it´s more or less specific to some areas in oceania. If you were to eat a non-infected person you wouldn´t go mad, at least not for any physical reason xD
 
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Cool im glad no-one was upset thank you :)

Really the proper care for axolotls and leaving them to their own business and not being omg so cute is the best way, even ignoring them and leaving them to do axolotl type things, im sure they just want to eat us anyway although I do like to think they like my attention!

My mums the worst for it, I actually think she loves the axolotls more than me lol! Calls them her 'beautiful babies' its like cheers mum i was your baby once haha :)

And thats really interesting, I always heard you eat people you go mad, but only if they are infected, wow you learn something new everyday!!

I think there should be a teach sheena page I love to hear all these interesting things, i did chemistry A level, i love biology but the A level really bored me, it wasnt taught well, so I decided to go into mechanical and electrical engineering and build a wind turbine lol :p and all this stuff really still confuses me on this site with the colouration of axolotls phenotypes and lalalatypes lol!

I often find even though I can read big words and understand them sometimes when things are written straight in small words I often understand a lot better as im sure many others do, A couple of really good books I've read on Koi Carp colouration say the big word then say the orange bit or something to the same respect, and I like that, simple but you learn a lot.

I have Koi Carp too, In a massive tank at the mo but going in a pond summer of next year :') and im going to buy a friendly Chagoi, Loves my goldfishies :)
 
The awkward thing is no one outwardly attacks one another for killing Axolotls on here. I can honestly say a lot of Axolotls that are being reported dead on here that aren't natural deaths. Its due to ignorant/bad care which is considered cruel. I think its cruel that Axolotls are being reported dead on Caudata.org every day! Don't you guys?


I agree definitely its cruel. No-one likes to hear of an animal suffer due to not keeping them well enough. But the risk with attacking other members is the person getting upset and then not giving the axolotl the right treatment because they think they are right.

Sad really but thats the beautiful world we live in!

Well I guess thats an acknowledgement of cruelty. I'm not posting to satisfy myself in anyway. If people can easily approach others or YouTube videos directly and harsh why can't we address each other on here. If we can't approach each other about animal cruelty and can ony address outsiders/non Caudata members then we are contradicting the Axolotl forum/Caudata.org.

The "Newt/SalamanderHelp" forums and "Sick Axolotl" forums are here to help with ignorance and offer advice in better care. I'm not saying that people haven't been addressed just saying that it seems like outsiders/non Caudata members get it harsh. And people on here don't get it half as bad. It's just contradicting to address others and not ourselves.
 
I have seen people get angry ar other people for ill axies a few times on here. I agree totqlly with u and i know ur not doing this for any self satisfaction , i could blow up at a few people but i stop myself as i think it may cause a person not to listen resulting in worse treatment which i dont want, neither do i like treading on egg shells xx
 
I have it on good authority that axolotl tastes like American Bullfrog which, in turn, tastes like a fine-textured chicken.

I am a very carnivorous omnivore, and I am willing to try most things at least once. But at the same time, I can't watch this video without scowling a bit. No moral stance, just selective dietary discrimination based on cuteness. Same reason I can't bring myself to eat octopus, but I can chow down on calamari all the live-long day.

Meat is meat after all. Truth be told, all morality and ethical debate aside, my only argument against cannibalism is that I know where we've been and, yeeech!, We are some filthy, filthy critters!
 
RARE Sushi (Mexican Walking Fish ) - YouTube

But... That doesn't change the fact that i can barely sit through this video:
Japanese guy who enjoy killing and eating axolote!

So, yeah. Pretty gross, but I suppose as long as they're actually humanely killed, and bred for food, then it's not up to us to say anything about it.

The opening to the video is funny! She's eating the Tempera Axolotl not knowing what it is. In almost exact translation she says "Its really tasty, what is this?". Then the Axolotls get tossed on the table.
 
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The opening to the video is funny! She's eating the Tempera Axolotl not knowing what it is. In almost exact translation she says "Its really tasty, what is this?". Then the Axolotls get tossed on the table.

That one is pretty funny! It's the one after that I have trouble with. The axolotls looked like pets. And were pretty brutally killed. But that one, well, it's definitely a food product!
 
I've heard that axolotl is a delicacy in Mexico. I have a Mexican aunt who claims it's delicious but I would never eat one since I own a couple.
 
I've heard that axolotl is a delicacy in Mexico. I have a Mexican aunt who claims it's delicious but I would never eat one since I own a couple.

I have a friend from Mexico that also claims a Axolotl is good eating also. What part of Mexico is your Aunt from?
 
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