USA- USPS not accepting amphibians?

you know, it would be very handy (*hint*hint*) if someone in the know -both in the states and in europe- were to write an article for CC on the proper way to go about shipping these guys (paperwork wise i mean) along with perhaps a post of what the label should look like.....any takers??
 
Ed

The Lacey Act covers all interstate movement of any wildlife or parts there of. I hunt elk in Colorado every year. It's a noncommercial activity. If I poach one and bring it home (out of Colorado) I have violated state law and the Lacey Act. If I collect a caudate illegally in one state and give it to you in another state, this would also be a noncommercial activity and a violation of the Lacey Act.

RUSS
 
Hi Russ,
If the animal is aquired or shipped illegally this is true. (actually interstate travel to hunt is considered a commercial activity as it is a form of tourism and you are purchasing the right to hunt from the state of Colorado.. anyway) If it is legally aquired and there is no commercial activity or shipping violation then it can be shipped over state borders without violation of the Lacey Act. For example, interstate commerce in indigos (D. corais) is covered via the Lacey act and requires a permit from USF&W. If my aunt who lives in California purchases an indigo in California and decides she doesn't want it anymore and decides to give it to me as long as it is legally shipped it does not come under or violate any portion of the Lacey act even though indigos are wildlife. The same applies to any wildlife. If my aunt purchased an elk in California, got tired of it and and wanted to give it to me and shipped it in compliance with the appropriate regs, the Lacey Act would not apply.
The difference between the two is that there is an exchange of value between you and the state of Colorado while there is no exchange of value between myself and my aunt. (And to keep it really clean, if one has this occuring, you should not reimburse shipping (according to a couple of USF&W officers I spoke with).
Ed

(Message edited by Ed on August 04, 2005)
 
Yes and no. Whether a transaction is considered commercial or noncommercial is moot under the Lacey Act. The act simply governs the interstate movement of wildlife and their products. And hunting elk is noncommercial according to the regs. The sale of the meat after I take it is illegal because that is considered a commercial activity by regulation. And the notion that reimbursing someone for the shipment of a gifted animal falls in the same category as my original comment about enforcement, it's seldom used unless other violations can't be established during aggressive investigations.

Your example of the indigo is even more complicated. Then you get into who needs what ESA permit and when. If you lived in CA you wouldn't need any, but if you lived in another state you would. If you didn't have the proper permit and received the snake out of state, both you and your aunt would be in violation of the the ESA and the Lacey Act. If you lived in CA and received it (no permit required, then decided to move out of state, you would need an ESA permit. If you didn't get one first then you would be in violation of both acts.

Buuuuuut, back to the original thread. The USPS does take all amphibians, but at the Post Master's discretion (usually weather related). Mark your packages correctly. Pack your animals correctly! And don't ask for anything from me in the summer. I shipped a package before leaving MN using UPS Next Day, $78!!!!
 
Hi Russ,
here is the Lacey act provisions as appliciable (from http://ipl.unm.edu/cwl/fedbook/laceyame.html ) Some comments by me are after the editor's statement.

snip "LACEY ACT AMENDMENTS OF 1981
16 U.S.C. §§ 3371-3378, November 16, 1981, as amended 1984 and 1988.
Overview. This Act replaces the Black Bass Act of 1926 and most of the original Lacey Act. The Lacey Act Amendments make it unlawful to import, export, transport, buy or sell fish, wildlife and plants taken or possessed in violation of federal, state or tribal law. Interstate or foreign commerce in fish and wildlife taken or possessed in violation of foreign law also is illegal. The Act requires that packages containing fish or wildlife be plainly marked. Enforcement measures include civil and criminal penalties, cancellation of hunting and fishing licenses, and forfeiture.

Selected Definitions. Fish or wildlife: an alive or dead wild animal, including a wild mammal, bird, reptile, amphibian, fish, mollusk, crustacean, arthropod, coelenterate or other invertebrate, and including any part, product, egg or offspring. Import: land on, bring into, or introduce into any place subject to U.S. jurisdiction. Plant or plants: a wild member of the plant kingdom, including roots, seeds and other parts (but not common food crops) indigenous to a state and either listed on an appendix to the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora, or under a state conservation statute. Secretary: Secretary of the Interior or Secretary of Commerce, according to program responsibilities; Secretary of Agriculture for provisions on the import or export of plants. Taken: captured, killed or collected. Transport: move, convey, carry or ship by any means, or deliver or receive for these purposes. § 3371.

Prohibitions on Activities. The Act makes it illegal to import, export, transport, sell, receive, acquire or purchase fish, wildlife or plants taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of a federal law, treaty, regulation or Indian tribal law. It also is illegal for a person to import, export, transport, sell, receive, acquire or purchase in interstate or foreign commerce: fish or wildlife taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of a state law, state regulation or foreign law; plants taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of a state law or regulation. The Act also makes it illegal to possess within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.: fish or wildlife taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of a state law, state regulation, foreign law or Indian tribal law; plants taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of a state law or regulation.

Additionally, the Act establishes marking requirements, making it illegal to import, export or transport in interstate commerce a container or package containing fish or wildlife unless the container or package is plainly marked, labeled or tagged in accordance with regulations issued under the Act.

The Act places restrictions on persons offering guiding and outfitting services and licenses or permits. A person who for money or other consideration offers or provides guiding, outfitting or other services, or a hunting or fishing license or permit, for the illegal taking, acquiring, receiving, transporting or possessing of fish or wildlife is deemed to have conducted a sale in violation of the Act. A person who obtains these services for money or other consideration is deemed to have conducted a purchase in violation of the Act.

The Act also establishes false labeling offenses. It is illegal to make or submit a false record, account, label or false identification of any fish, wildlife or plant that has been or will be (1) imported, exported, transported, sold, purchased or received from a foreign country, or (2) transported in interstate or foreign commerce. § 3372.

Penalties. The Act provides significant civil and criminal penalties for violations. Criminal penalties, especially fines, are also described in the summary of the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984.

For anyone convicted of a criminal violation, the Secretary may suspend, modify or cancel a federal hunting or fishing license, permit or stamp, or any license or permit authorizing import or export of fish, wildlife or plants. Fish, wildlife or plants used in a way that violates the Act, and vessels, vehicles, aircraft and other equipment used in the illegal activity, are subject to forfeiture to the U.S. §§ 3373-3374.

Enforcement. The Act and its regulations must be enforced by the Secretary, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Secretary of the Treasury, each of whom may enter into enforcement agreements with other federal or state agencies or Indian tribes. Persons enforcing the Act may carry firearms, make certain warrantless arrests, serve subpoenas and warrants, detain and inspect vessels and containers upon entry and departure from the U.S., and require the production of documents and permits. The Act authorizes rewards for information leading to an arrest, conviction, fine or forfeiture and expenses for the temporary care of seized fish, wildlife or plants. The Act also authorizes the issuance of regulations. §§ 3375-3376.

Appropriations Authorized. The Act requires the Secretary to request the funds necessary for enforcement as an item in the Department of the Interior appropriations budget proposal. § 3378.

Editor's Note. A related statute on the importation of animals, 18 U.S.C. §42, requires the Secretary of the Interior to develop regulations and issue permits for transporting wild animals and birds under humane and healthful conditions. The statute makes it illegal to transport knowingly a wild animal or bird to the U.S. under inhumane or unhealthful conditions or in violation of the regulations. The statute also prohibits the importation of wild mammals, birds, fish, amphibians, reptiles and brown tree snakes which the Secretary declares by regulation to be injurious to human beings, agriculture, horticulture, forestry or wildlife, with limited exceptions. The provisions of this statute were found originally in the Lacey Act, passed in 1900 (and summarized separately in this Handbook). The original provision was repealed and reenacted as § 42 of Title 18. § 18 U.S.C. 42"

In your case, Colorado requires the purchase of a hunting license and/or permit for elk. If you shot the elk without the permit and transported the any part of the body across the border then you would have violated the lacey act. If you use a guide and illegally purchased a license or the aide of the guide in hunting in a illegal manner then you would have violated the lacey act.
With respect to the indigos, the permit you refer to via the ESA does not apply as the animal was cb from legally aquired adults and is therefor not subject to the ESA provisions on cb endangered wildlife (see http://www.animallaw.info/administrative/adus50cfr17_21_23.htm) and as the animal was not aquired illegally or from illegal parents and was shipped legally from a jurisdiction that did not have any restrictions on indigos and into a jusrisdiction that did not have any restrictions on indigos, there is no Lacey act violation. The same could not be said if FLorida was the destination state.

Ed
 
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