Starting the set up and cycle for my future baby!!!

I am doing water tests every three days before I change 20%...I started testing the water every day but wasn't seeing much change..I'm thinking that it is taking longer to change since it's 40 gallons rather than 10.....I have recorded every water test and change as well...The reason behind doing the tests before every water change is so that I can keep up with it better....I understand that once my tank is cycled then I will continue with the testing every three days and do a 10% water change once a week...;)

I'm not worried about the chemistry of the water, I think I have that under control for now...I am concerned about disease from the feeder fish contaminating my tank!!!!:eek:
 
I love your tank. So simple, but really awesome. Your axie will love it... :)


Agreed, so simplistically beautiful.

Flintstonesque, love it.
 
Agreed, so simplistically beautiful.

Flintstonesque, love it.

Thanks, That is called tennesse fieldstone..it has dark green and blue color variation depending on the angle your looking at it..
 
I'm not worried about the chemistry of the water, I think I have that under control for now...I am concerned about disease from the feeder fish contaminating my tank!!!!:eek:
WOO HOO for the pH coming up but that may be in part due to the levels of ammonia as well as cycling

You can see disease in fish.
White spot is most common....
Do they have any small white spots and are they scratching themselves on the sand and plants if not then no white spot.

Worms and parasites...
Can you see anything on them that shouldn't be? White threads coming out of the cloacas, lumps and bumps, do their gills look normal, are they scratching? No then likely no parasites/worms but you can always slice open the belly of a dead one and have a look :D

Fungus...
Looks like cotton wool you can't miss it

other odd behaviours that could indicate problems...
Trouble swimming and maintaining buoyancy, swimming in circles, gulping air or swimming along the surface with their noses out (they do this in poor water where usually the ammonia is too high).

Essentially if you fish are behaving normally and don't have anything growing on them or coming out of them then the chances of disease are very low.


Here is what I think is killing them :)

You said that you had 1ppm ammonia so far but no Nitrares/nitrites so I would suggest that the bacteria required for transform the ammonia into the N's are not yet present, or present in quantities high enough to produce enough for the test kit to pick up which means you still have a lot of cycling to do :( and 9 goldfish is just too many for the tank to handle.

You might want to lok at doing an extra water change in there as if the ammonia get's too high it can kill the emerging bacterial colonies sending you back to square one :( You are looking for an ammonia spike to show you that you're close but you don't want that spike to kill your filter.
Your right it does take longer with more water but it will ultimately be more stable for exactly that reason

Out of curiosity have you tested your water out of the tap/well there may be something in there that shouldn't be, given it's well water I doubt it but still worth a look though :happy:
oooh and maybe test before and after you change the water next to give you an idea of the effect it's having on the water quality. Just a thought ;)

Hang in there another couple of weeks and it should be perfect :D


To be honest we don't bother with all the early testing here. We throw in a few guppies, some plants/substrate/filter medium from an established tank if we have any then watch the fish for signs of stress changing the water if they do and wait for the water to go cloudy (ammonia spike) do a 50ish% water change then watch if closely for the next week and change the water as required. Once the cloudyness settles and clears we test the water for 3 days to see what's going on and then you're good to go. Hubby has been doing this for a very long time though.
 
I have been watching the fish very closely, feeding them three small meals a day and watching them eat....the small feeders start acting dopey and then die, the bigger fish are fine and took a while to catch the last "five":eek:...They are in their new 3 gallon tank now. It was weird, they would be active but their dorsal would be lazy and it was almost like they were blind....they knew the food was there but would miss it!!!! My son and I were laughing at them until I figured out they were about to die.:( Any way no spots or disease/fungus from what I can see and they all looked like their bellies were full(not bloated)...There are bubbles on the top edge of the water around the glass, I don't know what that's all about.?.?.?
 
Thanks for asking.... it is still cycling... 6.4 ph, .25ppm ammonia, 5+ppm nitrites and 10ppm nitrate... I still have the five goldfish left and a crayfish.....I'm doin 10% water changes every three days...I'm going to wait until I'm happy with the water quality before I get my axie.
 
Hey Nitrate and nitrite :happy: WOO HOO you have all your bacteria present and working now.... YAY :D

Hopefully it won't be too much longer now.

LOL a crayfish now too :happy: why not!

So glad it's all going well.

Mere.
 
Thanks Mere, the crayfish is funny, I named it Creepy...I'll turn on the lights at night and it'll be hangin out in the top of my sprite,ha!!! Anyway, here are some updated pictures..everyone seems to be happy and the temp is staying between 18-19c...
 

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It's looking really good, well done :happy: I can't wait to see it with an axie or two.
Creepy looks so cool!!!!!!!
 
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