ElJorgo, I´m sorry but i keep watching threads about you keeping native species of your country. Are you aware it´s ilegal??? By law you can´t keep S.s.gallaica, T.marmoratus (VERY specially if they are WC), nor any other local species ( i´m not sure if i saw a post of you about L.boscai too).
If you are collecting these animals, please stop doing so...not only for the potential fine, but because it´s immoral, and you are damaging protected populations.
i have 1 CB male salamandra salamandra bernardezi and looking for a pair of females. im not overly keen on them i think once i have the 3 i want i won't be getting any more
Hello, I find the hype and myth around Inframaculata/Orientalis quite amusing, I recently found a pair of them for sale, and going off the price I understood that they must still be in the pioneering stage of captive breeding.
As a simple herper,looking at them, I feel that the physical relationship between the Inframaculata/Orientalis and European salamandra species is tenuous. Their size is another factor, ive heard they can reach up to and possibly larger than 30 cm. Is this true? if so then they must be very distant relations of the salamandra genus. For example, are they more in line with the idea of algerian salamandra's being quite distant in relation to the salamandra genus?
Yes there should be more Salamandra fans, and yes I am very interested in those Solling Yellows and Reds. But I don't want to make the same mistake I made last time with my snake collection. I am new here so i am reading and learning. By the way I sent you an email. Keep up the good work
Marco, Salamandra algira is a full species since 1996. The same goes for Salamandra infraimmaculata. That couple of S. i. orientalis that was offered some time ago actually were S. i. semenovi.
Morphological differences in the Salamandra genus mean little; evolution has given many sizes and colours to mainly S. salamandra subspecies, but they all originate from one common ancestor. Genetics therefore are more usefull, which clearly demonstrate that S. infraimmaculata, S. algira and also S. corsica and the Alpine salamanders are full species within the Salamandra genus.
The 30 cm is almost true; one Israeli S. i. infraimmaculata has been recorded of 29,5 cm. But also in Portugal there is a record of 25,3 cm.
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