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tj
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chao anh to you too!
oops, sorry about the repeat posts
maybe John can delete them along with this...
oops, sorry about the repeat posts
maybe John can delete them along with this...
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henk
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Just to tell you that overhere in Belgium, Henri Janssens has bred and kept the species. He currently still holds 24 of his 3 year old juveniles + a parental group of 3 adults. He aims to breed more in the next 2 years. However his animals are not for sale (so don't get your hopes up) but kept for studying them
Henri is somewhat the most devoted Paremesotriton specialist in the field and has kept and bred the genus for over 25 years now.
Henri is somewhat the most devoted Paremesotriton specialist in the field and has kept and bred the genus for over 25 years now.
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kei
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I saw some Tam Dao newts around in Tam Dao on a Japanese TV show today. They are not extinct so far. They live in mountain stream and have very red belly.
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nate
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For what it's worth, I have kept some Paramesotriton from American pet stores which look EXACTLY like the Tam Dao warty newt pictured in National Geographic Magazine's feature on the Tam Dao Preserve. It makes me think that deloustali can also be found in China.
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lane
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I too have kept these, however, the belly pattern is quite different from that of the deloustali shown on AmphibiaWeb. Excluding belly patterns, the two look identical and one could easily be mistook for the other. Just makes me wonder which is the true deloustali.
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kei
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Hi Nate, which issue of National Geographic Magazine?
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If it's found in Vietnamese provinces along the Chinese border, then I also reckon it'd be found in China as the geography in that area is pretty similar (or at least looks so from the air, lots of limestone outcroppings).
Lane, did you see the WC belly pattern pics at the above link? This one:
http://www.wing-wbsj.or.jp/~vietnam/pdf/reportHG.pdf
Kei, did you by any chance record the program? I checked the program's website at http://www.tbs.co.jp/f-hakken/ but they had no pics or other deloustali-related info posted there. If you're also in Tokyo, pls let me know!
Here's a pic of a deloustali from the Mergus Terrarien Atlas for comparison:
Lane, did you see the WC belly pattern pics at the above link? This one:
http://www.wing-wbsj.or.jp/~vietnam/pdf/reportHG.pdf
Kei, did you by any chance record the program? I checked the program's website at http://www.tbs.co.jp/f-hakken/ but they had no pics or other deloustali-related info posted there. If you're also in Tokyo, pls let me know!
Here's a pic of a deloustali from the Mergus Terrarien Atlas for comparison:
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ralf
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Hi all,
some information on the current status of Paramesotriton deloustali I want to share. This is based on an article in the German elaphe magazine by Harald Martens (in German:“Am Typus-Fundort von Paramesotriton deloustali“ elaphe 11 (2003) Heft 1 pp.55-59) as well as infos given by the author himself.
On a field trip to the terra typica of P. deloustali at Tam Dao (Vietnam) in August 2001, the author (who was accompanied by the Vietnamese herpetologist TRUONG) was able to confirm the persisting occurrence of this species in the vicinity of the village.
One locality where the animals were found (two females with total lengths of 15 respectively 17 cm) was a small pool near a hydropower plant, occupying an area of approx. 10 square meters and a maximum depth of 1 m. The pool was shaded by banana foliage, the bottom was covered with leaves and rocks (Conductivity 36 mS/cm, pH 6, water temp. 20 deg. Celsius). Other animals encountered in this pool were Racophorus-tadpoles as well as small snakes of the genus Amphiesma.
According to a local guide, eggs and larvae of this species can be encountered during the dry season (February and March) in similar water bodies. According to Harald Martens a lot of local people believe that this newt (called Ca Coc, which means „toad-fish“) is a live bearer since only morphed juveniles are encountered regularly.
According to TRUONG P. deloustali has a wider area of occurrence than just Tam Dao. It ranges approx. 60 km from Tam Dao in the Southeast to Tay Thien and up to Hop Hoa in the Northwest. The animals only occur south of the mountain range at elevations of 200 to 900 m above sea level. However, also 350 km north of Tam Dao animals, presumably belonging to Paramesotriton, were caught in the National Reserve of Bac Be.
One major threat for the animals is the ongoing trade with wildcaught animals despite of the official protected status of this species. Animals are often offered to/ bought by weekend vacationers (at approx. 3 Euros respectively US-Dollars) especially at the tourist centers of Tam Dao and Tay Thien. Because of the unsuccessful method of maintaining the animals by feeding them rice, there is a constant demand for these „good luck charms“.
some information on the current status of Paramesotriton deloustali I want to share. This is based on an article in the German elaphe magazine by Harald Martens (in German:“Am Typus-Fundort von Paramesotriton deloustali“ elaphe 11 (2003) Heft 1 pp.55-59) as well as infos given by the author himself.
On a field trip to the terra typica of P. deloustali at Tam Dao (Vietnam) in August 2001, the author (who was accompanied by the Vietnamese herpetologist TRUONG) was able to confirm the persisting occurrence of this species in the vicinity of the village.
One locality where the animals were found (two females with total lengths of 15 respectively 17 cm) was a small pool near a hydropower plant, occupying an area of approx. 10 square meters and a maximum depth of 1 m. The pool was shaded by banana foliage, the bottom was covered with leaves and rocks (Conductivity 36 mS/cm, pH 6, water temp. 20 deg. Celsius). Other animals encountered in this pool were Racophorus-tadpoles as well as small snakes of the genus Amphiesma.
According to a local guide, eggs and larvae of this species can be encountered during the dry season (February and March) in similar water bodies. According to Harald Martens a lot of local people believe that this newt (called Ca Coc, which means „toad-fish“) is a live bearer since only morphed juveniles are encountered regularly.
According to TRUONG P. deloustali has a wider area of occurrence than just Tam Dao. It ranges approx. 60 km from Tam Dao in the Southeast to Tay Thien and up to Hop Hoa in the Northwest. The animals only occur south of the mountain range at elevations of 200 to 900 m above sea level. However, also 350 km north of Tam Dao animals, presumably belonging to Paramesotriton, were caught in the National Reserve of Bac Be.
One major threat for the animals is the ongoing trade with wildcaught animals despite of the official protected status of this species. Animals are often offered to/ bought by weekend vacationers (at approx. 3 Euros respectively US-Dollars) especially at the tourist centers of Tam Dao and Tay Thien. Because of the unsuccessful method of maintaining the animals by feeding them rice, there is a constant demand for these „good luck charms“.