Question: Overfiltering?

Thats really weird.
And if you do a water change? does it just turn the same colour?
 
Even after a 15% water change ... no sign of any change. I only do 15% at a time bujt I do it twice a week.
 
Even after a 15% water change ... no sign of any change. I only do 15% at a time bujt I do it twice a week.

Do you ever perform a larger water change? small water changes are fine for a weekly schedule but one large one occassionally supplements this because nitrates are still being added up slowly. The water could be cloudy due to excess nitrates that are now allowing freefloating bacteria to colonize. The free floating bacteria are what can make the water a cloudy whitish color, but since they are using the nitrates, your test kit won't show that high nitrates.
 
Water is not cloudy and yes usually I just do 1 waterchange a week that's bigger I switched since I got the babies. Since when I do their changes Igo ahead and change the big tank

The water is discolored but free from any cloudyness ...

Sorry if I stated it was cloudy.
 
Water is not cloudy and yes usually I just do 1 waterchange a week that's bigger I switched since I got the babies. Since when I do their changes Igo ahead and change the big tank

The water is discolored but free from any cloudyness ...

Sorry if I stated it was cloudy.

Adding granular activated carbon to your filter system will go a LONG way in removing discoloration from the water. Dissolved organics and tannins (though you said you have no wood in your tank) are common causes. Carbon will help with both.

-Cole
 
Carbon was mentioned ... my only concern is it needs replaced often and takes room that could be used for beneficial bacteria ...


As long as Natsu is healthy and the water quality is fine should I just leave things be?
 
Adding granular activated carbon to your filter system will go a LONG way in removing discoloration from the water. Dissolved organics and tannins (though you said you have no wood in your tank) are common causes. Carbon will help with both.

-Cole

Activated carbon is a short term remedy. It will last around 2 weeks in most cases and after that whatever was the cause of the discoloration will begin to reappear. I find it unnecessary in any situation besides removing medication or if something toxic managed to get into my water. It really isn't worth the cost to be replacing it constantly. I find that my tank stays clear as long as I'm systematically removing their waste and performing the needed water changes. Dissolved organics in the water would be the likely culprit, or maybe some debris is hidden under something or the filter needs to be rinsed of any gunk that has accumulated. Either way the only long term solution is to clean the tank of anything that may be the cause (old food and waste) and maintain the filter. A large water change would be sufficient to clear up the water. Since you hopefully removed any sources of dissolved organics, it should stay clear.
 
Activated carbon is a short term remedy.

I'm not saying that granular activated carbon (GAC) is a fix-all remedy, but it is a valuable and inexpensive tool to have at one's disposal. The same goes for the various zeolite and other synthetic resin blends available. They won't fix the root cause of a tank malady, but they'll alleviate the symptoms. I would tend to disagree that is isn't worth the cost. A cost/benefit analysis would be up to the user. In this case, where repeated water changes are providing the desired effect, it certainly could be worth it as a "polishing" remedy - especially if "crystal clear" water is what the user if after.

It will last around 2 weeks in most cases and after that whatever was the cause of the discoloration will begin to reappear.

That first part isn't true, at least unless your water is really nasty. The lifespan of GAC depends on the concentration of contaminants and what the adsorption rate for those contaminants is at a given temperature. This can only be determined via an emperically-derived isotherm. Luckily, these are available for the most common conaminants. In most cases, the usable life of GAC is much greater than the manufacturer will suggest (for aquarium-grade GAC, not environmental grade). I do agree that once the GAC is spent, the symptoms will reappear. Note that GAC can be re-activated after it becomes spent by cooking it at a high temperature. Re-activated GAC doesn't last as long as "fresh" GAC, but it is a cost-saving alternative to throwing it away. Depending on the quality of the GAC and the efficiency at which it is re-activated, I'd expect a 30-50% loss in capacity after re-activation. But still...

Also note, GAC does NOT adsorb all contaminants. Phosphates and nitrogenous wastes, for example, require other synthetic resins (or, as Boomsloth and I both advocate - more water changes).

To the OP, what do you feed your axolotls? If they're feeding on earthworms, chances are that the gut contents of the worms is being emptied into your tank water. This may be happening directly (the worm poops) or secondarily (the axolotl which ate the worm poops). Many commercially available worms are fed peat moss or organic compost, both of which will color your water yellowish. This is on top of the coloring effects already inherent in feces, decaying leaves, etc.

Regardless, either increase your water changes or add a filter medium that will remove the conaminants from the water (or do both). Putting a bigger filter on the tank isn't going to fix the problem.

-Cole
 
Carbon was mentioned ... my only concern is it needs replaced often and takes room that could be used for beneficial bacteria ...


As long as Natsu is healthy and the water quality is fine should I just leave things be?

Carbon actually has a very rough grained surface, and when it has reached its level of adsorption when it can hold no more contaminants, it actually works pretty well as a surface for bacteria to colonise.
 
Well, maybe this can help a little (Besides the Carbon),
If I leave my water for a few days without doing a water change, my tank water goes slightly yellow - even though my nitrites and all the rest are fine.

SO, what I do is this. I do a 50% water change twice a week, yes its a mission but it really works. My tank always looks crystal clear and it does not harm the bacteria at all. (as long as dechlorinated water is being used).

I know exactly what you are talking about with the yellow water, because mine also turns yellow for some reason. I would suggest that you increase the amount of water you take out. Im sure you know this already, but there is barely any bacteria in the actual water. All of the bacteria thrives on the substrates, in the filter and on the ornaments. Therefore you can do huge water changes weekly without this affecting the cycle of your tank.

I hope this helps :)
 
Well its time for a bigger bucket :p mines only 1 gallon so water changes take forever.

I am going to try activated carbon in addition to bigger changes. I need to get in this routine since I will soon have many more than 1 lotl living in my tank :) wetll not MANY ... 4 until they are big enough for Natsu to rejoin them :)

Thanks for the help :) I will let you know how it goes. I am also getting a bigger filter hers does not hold much media so the media it has will be moved over to the new one along with another sponge, carbon and ceramic rings when I can get some :)

Is there anything else I should do?
 
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