Well the T. carnifex white group originates from a cave in Italy and has been brought into the Dutch Urodela circle now about 7 years ago (I think), where some people took the time to breed them in large(r) numbers. But they are not as easy to keep as their normal (and almost bulletproof) colored compagnions. They have not met with much success (no very large numbers popped up later)
Currently I have a group of 5 heterozygotic juveniles that have this recessive gen. In the next Gersfeld meeting (another 3 weeks) I'm practically sure we will see some juveniles popping up again and if all goes well maybe I may breed mine next year and hope to get some of those white out of that...
Come one everybody . the photo on the top is no karelinii but an flavistic carnifex. I bred a lot of them this year. I sold/trade about 50 of the size of the photo. Some people trade my white carnifex further.
Look to my caresheet how we breed them. http://home.hetnet.nl/~dresens/engelscarnifex.htm
on www.salamanders.tk
Everything is translated now in english
I have some white carnifex left and take them with me to Gersfeld to trade. Also some heterozygoot carnifex.
Well Henk, you can trade with me!
From who did you get that flavistic carnifex tim??
The one at the top may very well have originated from you then, Harry.
The label at the shop said "minami kushi imori" -- which is Japanese for T. karelinii. But it was also later pointed out on a Japanese BBS that it is T. carnifex
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