Help!! - Possibly sick or injured Axolotl - need assistance!

Update: the vet has taken another look, she also consulted with colleagues on something similar to VIN and was able to take a look at some skin samples under the microscope. she says from the cell structure and from colleague opinions, it does appear to be cancer. She mentioned she sees no signs of anything fungal. Gotta love the big C - my elderly neighbors 3 year old dog and only buddy was put down today with leukemia - we were going to adopt him when our neighbour got too old to care for him - anyway i digress....

So the vet suggested we could try another course of antibiotics - vitrol was what he was on before, but the vet suggested the best option might be tea baths and treatment more to make him as comfortable as possible. I asked about metronidazole and the vet mentioned its similar to vitrol but they can find it harsher so we may try that too but for now but again are going to go the tea bath route.

In terms of the tea baths - i have read the article on this website (www.caudate.org/cc/articles/illness2.shtml)
from what i am interpreting the article suggests you leave them in the tea solution permanently VS putting them in a "bath" for a period of time. Calgary could you confirm if this is the right method to follow? IE 1 bag of unflavored black tea for every 2.5 gallons, then leave him in it for 7 days and do a 60% water change etc?

I have a 20 gallon tank with nothing else in it, i am considering just using his existing tank VS doing this in a smaller quarantine tank - despite what the article suggests as i want to limit stress. so what i was thinking was to do the 60% change in a week, then do 1 more regular 20% change the next week, then repeat the tea regiment again from the beginning..... I was planning to use tetley earl grey, but i notice it does say it has "natural flavourings" on the box - and it specifically mentions the "flavour of bergamot" (LOL) - is this tea okay to use or should i be buying a different brand?

I have also read multiple other posts and per your advice - thank you for all of your posts - i will no longer be giving salt baths and have just added 2 tablespoons to his tank and will keep these levels up moving forward.

if you could confirm the tea bath article (or my version above) is correct, and whether we should do this in his regular tank or setup some sort of long term quarantine tank. we ideally wanted to keep up this tea regiment long term if it is going to be something that will be soothing for him.

Thanks man!
 
I have never used tea long term in a tank only in a tub as a bath. in a tank I could see indian almond leaf extract.

Boiling several crushed leaves for 10-15mins let cool - strain through cheesecloth and use to desired strength in tank
 
@KerfuffleFace

Aw I am so sorry to hear that about your axolotl but I have high hopes they can beat it!

Have you found a good tea bath article or video? There are some on this site but whenever I give my axolotl a bath for anything, I search YouTube for someone doing it so I know what the process looks like, rather than just reading an article.
 
Thanks so much EasternRomioi3 - I'm getting some conflicting information on "the tea baths" thing, but per your suggestion I looked at some videos and some other websites. What I have gathered is there may be two different methods people use - one is more of an actual tea bath - in which the tea would be more concentrated and the exposure would be 10-15 mins per day. The other option, which is referenced on this site is to add 1 tea bag per 2.5 gallons for a longer exposure, and then get rid of it through an initial 60% water change after a week and smaller water changes thereafter.

I've decided since my guy is the only thing in the tank, that I am going to go with the long term tea regime and i am going to use his actual 20g tank as the "quarantine tank".

why worry about the stress of moving him from one tank to another, and more importantly, to a second quarantine tank that isnt cycled. instead I'm about to add 7 bags of tea worth of tea to his primary tank once it cools down (used 7 instead of 8 incase he is under 20 gallons by a bit) and
we will see how he does over the next week, then i will start cycling it out for a week or so, then repeat.

He is definitely favoring the area as both of his back legs are often angled above his body which he doesn't normally do, so i am hoping that this will provide him some comfort.

If there is any issues i have setup a 10 gallon tank as an emergency tank and will move him and the filter across should he have any issues with the tea regiment.

I am also stopping salt baths per Calgary's previous comments and am just adding salt to his tanks 1 tbsp. per 10 gallons to provide him some comfort there.

Stu Masterton
 
Adding salt to the tank is a good start, using aquarium branded salt. I've had success with that.

Given his condition, moving him around is probably a bad idea so I agree with your methods. The spare emergency tank is wise, I have one of those too.

How are you? Your spirits seem to be good. I know how stressful it is to take care of a sick pet, hang in there. Trying to help is the right way to go, always for the betterment of the pet.
 
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