Help, please!!!!

wolfen said:
they are fine eating most frozen food ie.. bloodworm, brine shrimp, mysis, krill, cockle, mussel, beefheart etc.. the main thing is that they are strict carnivores so the food has to be meat based, salmon should also be ok.
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So look at this!!!! Another axie that was in the same tank as my sick one developed fungus. I flushed it off and put it under my microscope. 1 is a mite, not sure if that guy is normal, the other is I don't know what the f##*!!!! So it's paracitic????
 

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DogLady0142 said:
Thanks again for your time and help, I don't want to loose him. He tolerated the salts well. What do you use in your salt baths?
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i just use dechlorinated water and marine salt, i don't remember how much
 
axolotl nerd said:
i've never used anything other than salt and tea baths for fungus, so i can't give reliable advice on combining those treatments.
how long has it been since he last ate? about how skinny is he? force feeding is a last ditch effort because it can be so stressful
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Can you please check out the photos I uploaded from my microscope? Maybe you can confirm parasites +/-? Ty
 
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Can you please check out the photos I uploaded from my microscope? Maybe you can confirm parasites +/-? Ty
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i just saw it, and honestly i'm not sure. i've never had an issue with parasites with any of my animals, so i can't offer advice here. summoning @wolfen for more info
 
the first is definitely a water mite (Hydrachnidia), whether this is parasitic or not would involve further investigation, treatment is with Ivermectin although flaccid paralysis can occur with overdose, also fine filtration can be used to remove the majority from the water. these could have been introduced via a multitude of ways including mosquito.
the moving microbes in the video can be an assortment of organisms and are most likely feeding of the fungus, these could literally be anything as any body of water soon becomes host to a variety of organisms.
 
The moving microbes in the videao look like Stylonychia, a very common ciliate protozoa.
Not dangerous at all. It can occur in any aquarium, even without fungus.
 
wolfen said:
the first is definitely a water mite (Hydrachnidia), whether this is parasitic or not would involve further investigation, treatment is with Ivermectin although flaccid paralysis can occur with overdose, also fine filtration can be used to remove the majority from the water. these could have been introduced via a multitude of ways including mosquito.
the moving microbes in the video can be an assortment of organisms and are most likely feeding of the fungus, these could literally be anything as any body of water soon becomes host to a variety of organisms.
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I'm going to try to find an online vet, or get the vet I work with to post something on her boards on my behalf.
Somewhat good news, the fungus on the body has started to flake off after the salt bath. I gently flushed for 10 min during the bath. For some reason he then spent the day sitting over the bubbler. Lat night when i took him out for a tea bath, I saw most of what was covering the body is gone. The gills are still covered. Now I got to get this little guy to eat!!!!!!
He's a fighter, let's hope he keeps fighting 💪
Thank you guys for all your help, if he lives it will all be because of you guys!!!!
 
I'm beyond annoyed. The only vet in my city was ho could possibly help isn't taking on new patients. I told them what was going on, and the reply was they just "don't have the time". I've tried looking for a vet throughout the reptile and amphibian veterinarian data base, and struck out there too. Does anyone know of a vet who does online consultation? Who is able to practice in Canada?

I tried force feeding and that was a bust. He just spat everything out. I'll try again tomorrow with different food.
 

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So one vet posted back, saying I should try again levamisole... With no instructions.... I googled it aNd found nothing on Amazon. I found Levamisole HCL Powder from a fish store online, but I'm reluctant to use it. What if it's contains something not good for axies. The vet had no idea what primed water meant, or the term tubbing. He also scoffed at tea baths and had no idea why I was using Indian almond Leafs. I'm doubtful of his recommendations, he kinda made me feel stupid. And suggested that it's my fault that the axie has bad skin cause I'm doing so many things. I only tried so much, because things aren't working and I don't want him to die. I don't know what you guys think, but I want your opinion before I buy it.

Second attempt to force feed was better. I found a post on this site, and I used my hand rather than a towel, but I used grub pie this time. I held his head up this time, so reduced the amount he was able to spit out. 🥺

Thanks
 
use full 100% holtfreters solution which is 3.46g salt, 0.05g potassium chloride, 0.1g calcium chloride, 0.2g bicarbonate of soda, also add 0.2g magnesium sulphate, it is easier to mix the solution in two parts so the salt/potassium/calcium/magnesium in 0.5 litre and the bicarb in 0.5 litre, this is because once the bicarb and the calcium chloride mix calcium carbonate is formed so it is easier to add them separately, it is also easier to make up larger amounts due to chemical quantity's and ease of measuring. this is to resolve fungal issue
feed small food types such as bloodworm/brineshrimp/mysis/krill etc.. feed at night time and leave in overnight the do water change following day.
ascorbic acid (vitamin c) can be added into the holtfreter solution as it may help encourage appetite and will also convert some calcium carbonate into calcium ascorbate which is easily absorbed as a source of calcium, can be added at 0.1g per litre but better to start at 0.05g per litre.
frozen brineshrimp/krill/cockle/mussel have vitamin A which is required in salamander and other amphibian diets, some pellets also contain the required vitamins as well.
 
levamisole is a antiparasitic and is used as 24hr baths at 100 - 300 mg per litre, I've attached formulary, please read cautions with levamisole.
 

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wolfen said:
use full 100% holtfreters solution which is 3.46g salt, 0.05g potassium chloride, 0.1g calcium chloride, 0.2g bicarbonate of soda, also add 0.2g magnesium sulphate, it is easier to mix the solution in two parts so the salt/potassium/calcium/magnesium in 0.5 litre and the bicarb in 0.5 litre, this is because once the bicarb and the calcium chloride mix calcium carbonate is formed so it is easier to add them separately, it is also easier to make up larger amounts due to chemical quantity's and ease of measuring. this is to resolve fungal issue
feed small food types such as bloodworm/brineshrimp/mysis/krill etc.. feed at night time and leave in overnight the do water change following day.
ascorbic acid (vitamin c) can be added into the holtfreter solution as it may help encourage appetite and will also convert some calcium carbonate into calcium ascorbate which is easily absorbed as a source of calcium, can be added at 0.1g per litre but better to start at 0.05g per litre.
frozen brineshrimp/krill/cockle/mussel have vitamin A which is required in salamander and other amphibian diets, some pellets also contain the required vitamins as well.
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K I just want to be clear, but without sounding like a complete idiot 😉 you want me to use the holtfreters as a bath? or use at 100% strength in the tub? I got my supplies in today, got to get busy. 😊
 
use holtfreters at 100% whilst he is tubbed, the amount of salt in holtfreters will be less aggressive than a salt bath but because of the longer period of time will be just as effective, once the fungus is gone the amount can be reduced to 50% as a preventative, holtfreters at 50% will still get rid of fungus it will just take longer.
 
So it looks like the thing in the video could be either a copepod or chilodenella or costia, last two are parasites. Thanks for the formulary, btw, but stupid Canadian government put a ban on all fish meds, so I can't just go buy the levamisole even if I wanted to. 🤯 I saw a document from the university of Kentucky online that said they tried to treat a chilodenella infection with holtfreters, and it didn't work. 😥I'm going to try anyway. Another remedy is a formalin solution. That just scares me!!!! Ahhhhh!!!! 🤯
 
when it comes to chilodenella most information pertains to fish, different chemicals can be used to treat, these are salt, formalin, potassium permanganate, hydrogen peroxide, acriflavin, methyline blue.
 
Update guys!!!! By some miracle, I found an aquatic vet right here in my city. A pet store of all places recommended him. They use this vet as Canada no longer allows the sale of over the counter fish medications. I have an appointment today. My little axie is still holding on.

I did another wet mount last night, and found more of those little critters. They're, so fast moving and go between the layers of the field so quickly I couldn't get another video. I'm seriously hoping that it's some parasite we can treat and my axies live through this whole thing.

I thank you for your time and patience with me, especially Wolfen!!!! I'll let you know what happens today.

Kelly 😊
 
So we have meds to treat for protozoans. Protozoans can cause fungus and bacteria infection. I picked up meds starting tonight.

Thanks again especially Wolfen and axolotl nerd. I appreciate everyone 😊😊😊
 
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