FOOD FOR FBN!!!!

If you have a walmart near buy or any bait stores, you will be able to get earth worms there. Also, the shop you bought your C.o at should sell frozen food. The mainstay of my C.o diet is frozen bloodworms. They arnt very expensive, i buy them in large sheets for 12 dollars, and that lasts me 3-4 months.
 
you should not be owning animals if you have this sort of attitude. When you take an animal into your care you need to provide with what it requires to live, not force it to live under the care you want to provide it with.

Yes, Well thats exactly why I have done EXTENSIVE research. I don't sit at my computer for hours looking at all the sites about fire-bellied newts for nothing. I'm just trying to understand the other side of the fact. Half the sites say 50% water land, and half say 75% water and 25% land. Some even say 75% land and 25% water. So how can you expect me JUST to follow what YOU say when there are a dozen other people saying the opposite. I am trying to understand both sides of opinions, so please do not state that I do not know how to take care of animals, I don't spend dozens of hours preparing for them and annalizing every site for no reason. Ask my parents, the computer has been clogged up ever since I learnt about fire-bellied newts. And what YOU think it needs to live , OTher people don't. I need to find a balance between this and not come to un un-rational desision. If I do find that it is better for me to get something more largly known as terresrial then I will do so, but at the moment no one is giving me any suggestions of what types of salamanders are, and the biggest point of WHERE to get them.
 
Plus comming back to the main topic of my post, and more clarifying my point that people have different opinions. Before I came to this site I found that many websites told me I could use woodlouses for fire bellied newts. It also seemed as though earthworms were the main food of choice. I only wanted to know whether or not wood louses could be used instead of worms. Then ira, you come up with the point of they are not good to feed them with since they are largly aquatic. I don't really see how that has a problem, if I read that they can eat them. That's why I read through everysite for hours to try and juggle two opinions.
 
But your right Ira, I don't want to be forcing the animal under any conditions, which is why I hope to find a terrestrial species. I liek the greek smooth newt on this site
http://www.pollywog.co.uk/orderform.html

I cannot find a caresheet for it so I don't know if it is terrestrial. I also can't ship since it costs alot and im only 14, almost 15 so since I don't work its a lot of money to come by. Do you have any suggestions Ira of ways I could obtain a terrestrial species in British Columbia, Canada. You help is really great!
 
Not to beat a dead horse, Newt, but I recommend two things:

(to your other topic)

If your first getting the animals give it a land/water environment with ample hiding places. Who knows? Some CFB take to the water and some spend most of their time on land. I don't see a benefit in forcing it to live on land, you can probably observe it even better in an aquatic environment anyway.

On the topic of Roley-Polies (Alright, pill bugs... but I like the way Roley Polies sounds better). Why don't you supplement your newts diet with these or use them until you become accustomed to feeding earthworms? Make sure you use the smallest pillbugs available. My opinion is to get over earthworms, there are plenty of other, bigger worms to be grossed out over =P
 
Here's some general info:
Anything called newt tends to be aquatic or has a significant aquatic phase. Lissotriton for example (the greek smooth newt) has a fully aquatic phase between late march and early september, the breeding season.

If you want something terrestrial, look for things that are called salamander. Maybe people here can suggest good salamander starter species.

As for food, diversion is the key so while woodlice are good food and occasional crickets are good, earthworms are a good part of a balanced salamander diet too.
 
Yes, actually I'm feeling better about feeding them earthworms now. Thanks Ester that clears it up for me a lot. Anyone who has suggestions of which salamanders are good starter species and terrestrial, please feel free to share!
 
Have you tried looking up which kinds of salamanders are native in your area? Even if you live in a city, wouldn't it be possible to make a day trip out into the "wilderness" to go look for some?
 
I do live in the city, but and I could possibly go out into a place to look for them, but I don't know where to look, and what areas. I've actually never seen a live newt or salamander before. My friend has caught some around Hope and I'm sure that there are some by where I live, but do you know where to find out what kinds are native to my area?
 
I found these terrestrial and semi-terrestrial 50/50 newts and salamanders to be to my liking:
Terrestrial

Marbled Salamander *
Monterey Salamander (needs shallow water pan) *
Red-backed Salamander *
Spotted Salamander ?maybeee
Tiger Salamander*

Semi Aquatic

California Newt (maybeee)/
Eastern Newt ?
Mandarin Salamander
Marbled Newt (maybe rather too small for what I’m looking for)
Northern Red Salamander ?perhapps
Oregon Newts /rough skin newt (like California newt
 
Newt, where are you from? I have a good portion of those around me (supposedly)... yet I haven't ever seen one.
 
<font color="0077aa"><font size="+1">nightcrawlers are something that i found to be to my liking. heres something from caudata culture "Night Crawlers (Lobe Worms)
Rating: <font color="119911">Excellent</font>

Advantages: Nutritious
Commonly available
For both aquatic and terrestrial
Easily accepted
Smaller, juvenile worms available for smaller caudates ("Red Devils")
Disadvantages: Worms too large must be cut or diced for smaller caudates.

Varieties: European
Canadian
"Red Devils"
Availability: Bait shops and online bait/feeder dealers

why do you want a terrestrial newt? to feed it woodlice? i dont want to stop you from getting a terrestrial newt but these cfb's are cute, cheep and readily available.

i live in the backcountry of louisiana. swamps, alligators (hey maybe i should try raising those instead of newts LOL) and i have yet to see any small rep/anphibians other than green anoles which are almost impossible to catch and the occasional gecko. now if i cant find any newts/salamanders here gee you do the math.

i really think getting a c orientalis and feeding it nightcrawlers is the way to go. its affordable (also 13 w/no job) i spent less than 10 dollars on that newt though i did already have a 10 gal tank.</font></font>
 
I would, but then I'm not sure if its going to be more aquatic. Some people say that they are half and half, some people say mostly aquatic. I don't want to get another aquatic animal. I already have many fish and an aquatic frog. I also have 2 dogs. I am currently trying to find out whether or not I can find some in stores where I live(land dwelling salamanders) or in the wild.
And to answer your question Justin, I live in Surrey British Columbia, Canada. Rather different than New York I think. LOL.
I don't know what to do anymore! I have not seen any stores where I live that sell any salamander thats terrestrial only one that sold the FBN. I asked the lady at the store whether or not they ever get any salamanders and she told me that no, people usually go out and catch them thereselves. I don't know where to catch them though!!!!!!!!
I have fallen into despair. Every time I decide on an animal to probably get it turns out there is a problem.
 
See I don't want a terrestrial newt to feed it wood lice. I just read thats what the FBN ate and through that topic relized that its a 60/50 chance that it will be more aquatic than land. The point is that I wanted a terrestrial newt in the first place. I was just trying to find out if FBN could be partially terrestrial. If I got ANOTHER aquatic animal I think i would get bored of it. That's why im trying to find something thats at least half terrestrial.
 
I am currently doing research on Chinese Firebelly Newts in their natural environment.

We have found that CFB's tend to be predominantly land-based when juveniles (below about 6cm in length). During this time they tend to eat various worms including bloodworms, earthworms, woodlice and insect larvae. They do occasionally enter the water to eat mosquito larvae and Daphnia.

Adult CFB's tend to be aquatic-based, and their diet changes somewhat. They tend to feed predominantly on Daphnia, Mosquito larvae, fish fry and other aquatic insects.

We have also noticed that when water temperature increases above 25C some adult CFB's become land-based, although the majority do tend to stay in the water at greater depths.

To sum up:

If you want a land-based newt, then CFB's are not what you are looking for.

Happy newts eat a variety of food - preferably LIVE
 
Thanks James, and yes this is why I am now reseacrhing which land dwelling next/salamander is right for me
 
i feed mine 2 thirds of a cube of frozen brine shrimp ur bloodworms a day to my cynops pyoraghaster
 
<font color="0077aa"><font size="+1">what about a green anole? they are terrestrial. they eat pretty much whatever a terrestrial frog would, crickets, spiders, there are an abbundance of green anoles here. i hope you find a good pet. good luck!</font></font>
 
Green anoles are reptiles, plus they are not a good beginner pet. Wild-caught animals are usually full of parasites, they can't be handled due to nervous dispositions and the cost of proper housing equipment is easily ten times the cost of purchasing one (as they're relatively inexpensive in the pet trade.)
 
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