Building a hide

I have a solution to the abrasive surface, coat all the sand in resin so you get the look but a smooth surface. Let me know how you get on as im thinking of giving it a go myself.
 
I hope you dont think im being mean but a hide covered with glued on sand is actually the equivalent of sand paper and though it looks good , it is an abrasive surface which could potentially damage a startled/bolting axolotl.

Its not the equivalent of sand paper mate, I often work with wood and steel and know what im talking about. The sand comes off real easy only by rubbing it a little and to be perfectly honest, I'd say its a nicer thing to bump into than a rock.

But thanks for the input, you are of course entitled to your own views, and should you feel that something you make isnt safe, dont use it.

I do think however that you should be careful how you word things (a suggestion is to word it as a question, seeing you arent up to speed with either the situation or materials in general), since we are all here sharing a hobby and trying to help one and other here. Getting at each others throats wont help anyone. I find it remarkable how you find the energy to try to rack down on something I have built because I really care about my axolotls, I would NEVER do anything I thought was potentially harmful to them.
 
how creative good work!! :happy:
 
I built one with sand stuck to it and if you rub it it does just come off. My axies spend alot of time on it (the sand is only on the outside (front and sides) and I have a chunk of driftwood on the top to weight it down) one axie in particular presses up against it and lies there alot. The sand has a strange feeling to it when its all mixed in with the silicone it's almsot rubbery, not rough anymore like the stuff on the ground in kids play parks.

Anyhoo I'm making another one asap when I get more silicone, my axies love the one they have and it would be nice to have another hide at the other end of the tank for them too. :D
 
I was very careful with the wording of my post so as not to offend so i think your being a tad oversensitive , i think your hide concept is aesthetically pleasing and am considering adopting it myself, i even sent you a pm to that effect. In no way did i attempt to be at your throat and i apolagise if thats what you thought i was doing, i saw to be a potential problem and offered a potential solution. You have rebutted the problem , case closed.
 
Ian,

Definitely have a go at making one. I put loads of silicone onto the surface of the box then used an old debit card to spread it out best I could. I chucked a load of sand onto a bag and then pressed the sticky box in it really hard. Turned it back the right way and pressed more sand in by hand, making sure it was all stuck in good. I used an ice cream tub which is a good size, I cut a door in and then weighted it down. If plastic bottles are OK for tank use (need to do my research) I'm going to cut the ends of a big one and then cover it too to make then a huge tube :D
 
If plastic bottles are OK for tank use (need to do my research)

I had the same thought, though i think because your using a container designed for food storage it should be ok to use in the short term ,as leaching of chemicals from the container would have been part of the design criteria, however we would be using this container in a way that probably wasn't envisaged by the designers lol. I would err on the side of caution and seal the container totally(inside and out) to guard against leaching just to be on the safe side. Im definitely going to give this design a go but im going to hang on because im sure this thread will run for a while and some bright spark is going to come out with a method for giving the hide a natural bogwood look.
 
One of my lotl's came in a bottle, considering i also have an acrylic tank and a hamster tube i have thus far not found a problem!



To cml would like to see this in the tank :)
 
One of my lotl's came in a bottle, considering i also have an acrylic tank and a hamster tube i have thus far not found a problem!

To cml would like to see this in the tank :)
I just took some pictures today! Ive just replaced my home-made lid with the original one, which I didnt really like because of the bright lights. Rest assured,, the lights will be off unless its phototime, which for they were great.

Here it is:
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I hope everyone likes it! :D

As for plastics being an issue, I cant imagine it being so. From my own research and a lot of the members here who use plastic tubs for their axolotls, its safe to use plastic containers. Also, most fake aquarium plants are made of plastics, as are decorative items. I doubt they have the same high standards and rules as food containers have.
There are also lots of fully plastic aquariums for sale. I have also googled to make sure the items' materials I have used are aquarium safe.

Build something nice for your Axolotls and please share the pictures with me when you are done! =)
 
It looks fantastic and really natural! Your tank looks great :happy:
 
Your tank is seriously EPIC! I did a quick re-arrange in my own tank when I saw this. I felt kinda.. inadequate lol.. :p
 
Looking good. it almost looks like those south american pyramids, so very fitting for a axolotl tank.
 
Your tank is seriously EPIC! I did a quick re-arrange in my own tank when I saw this. I felt kinda.. inadequate lol.. :p
Thank you so much!
I love seeing other people's tanks, thats why I started redecorating in the first place! =)
 
Oh My Goodness!!
This tank is incredible - Mine looks TOTALLY inadequate now. I'm going to have to start thinking about what I can do to jazz it up a bit!!
I found this thread by accident whilst searching for information on a permanent substrate -I.E sand glued down with aquarium silicone, and so wondered if perhaps you guys could help me with my tank. I'd initially had my axie Puck (that's him in the profile pic, munching a minnow) on a bare bottom tank, but he seemed to have some trouble walking along it properly. So I covered the entire floorspace with large smooth pebbles (a bit larger than his whole head) which he seemed to love clambering over. However it was becoming quite difficult to keep clean as detritus would keep collecting under the pebbles and I'd have to remove them all once a week to get under them. It was driving me insane! So I got some good-quality white silica sand on the bottom, with a few pebbles for decoration, and a big log with two live plants growing out of it (not too sure what they are) and he seems happier - and I LOVE the arctic look, which looks especially festive at the minute. But I keep seeing him covered in grains of sand from when he does his evening dash about, and he will often nose-dive straight down making sand fly everywhere. It then gets on his face and makes him do a kind of 'sneeze' - I think maybe he doesn't like it so much :/ Plus keeping the white sand white is a nightmare too - when I just want to use my turkey baster to suck away a little waste I end up taking loads of sand.
So anyway, I was thinking about a glued-down bottom. But now I'm terrified I'm going to hurt him with this sandpaper flooring... Has anyone tried this?? Can anyone offer me some other advice here?

Thanks xx
 
I really had no intentions of posting in this thread (as I usually simply search around the forums remaining introvert), but the last post rendered me highly tempted to reply.

First of all, I truly love the design of the hide, and, as what many others have stated, it renders my tank design quite inadequate. Consequently, I feel a very large temptation to adorn my aquarium with hand-made ornaments, which I will once a sufficient quantity of Java Moss grows.

Now, Snootyfox, although I utilise sand as a substratum, I have an idea that may or may not be sufficient for your issue, and may or may not be feasible. What if you removed all of the sand and replaced it entirely with a carpet of Java Moss? My ideas of ornaments that inspired me from this thread (that involves the Java Moss I have growing in my basement) plus your post gave me that idea. You could purchase some mesh, crop it down to the size of the bottom of your aquarium (or a bit smaller to allow growth), weave fishing line through the mesh with Java Moss inside (you might want to allow the moss to grow beforehand, or simply purchase a large quantity), and use your own imagination to figure out how to stop it from floating at all sides. I have seen fish tanks (no axolotls) with a carpet of Java Moss, though I have not really thought about how it was executed. My idea was just my hypothesis, therefore read other methods if my suggestion intrigues you enough. I have read somewhere that axolotls enjoys laying on Java Moss, though I've haven't personally witnessed this yet (no Java Moss in my axolotl aquarium), and I'm not certain if they would like Java Moss everywhere. Perhaps add a few hard surfaces? These are only suggestions.
 
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Cml, i do apologise for not visiting this thread since my last post, especially as you had spent the time to take a photo for me :)

Thanks, your tank looks great, almost like a sand castle (in my opinion) and sand paper as you say isnt just sticking sand onto paper with a little pva ;)

After seeing your first pot, i have spent the last 3 months looking for one and FINALLY i got one for £1.99 which was brilliant.

Im glad to see your axies make use of the higher ground, mine must be lazy or something because they tend to only use higher ground when the plants etc are there. and stands i have for them, if not they just sit on the floor :)
 
Brandon - that's actually quite inspired!
What a great idea to have a totally planted bottom!! I'm not sure how it will help keep clean as I know nothing about java moss - But i'm going to look into it as it sounds incredible. I think my axos would love laying about on that - It sounds so luxurious!

Thanks for the great idea - I'll let you know how I get on with that!!

:supercool:
 
You are most welcome, Snootyfox! And thank you, I would love to hear from you if you decide to commence this project.
 
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