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nathan
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lisa, how far did your axies get before they all died off?
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Ahhhh!!! i only just put them together!! now there are spermatophores everywhere!
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anne-marie
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Lol - I know what you mean about the new, slender axolotl once she's laid her eggs, it's amazing how much of a difference it makes - shame it doesn't work like that for human females (me!).
Check out local pet shops if you feel like it because I know of a few around here that actually do sell brine shrimp eggs.
As for feeding, its trial and error. I got by with once big feed a day. If you have the time twice would boost the growth rate, i imagine.
There generally is a high mortality rate. From around 400 eggs, I had just over 100 make it to juvenile adult stage, so be prepared for that.
Check out local pet shops if you feel like it because I know of a few around here that actually do sell brine shrimp eggs.
As for feeding, its trial and error. I got by with once big feed a day. If you have the time twice would boost the growth rate, i imagine.
There generally is a high mortality rate. From around 400 eggs, I had just over 100 make it to juvenile adult stage, so be prepared for that.
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lisa
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I had two batches a week apart. The usual scenario; no signs, just all of a sudden hundreds of eggs.
The first lot didn't make is past a month. But some of the second batch lasted almost two months.
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nathan
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but did they get front legs with hind buds or what?
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lisa
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They about doubled in size. I could make out their colorings and their teeny little gills. But no legs had started to develop.
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nathan
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Wow! I dint do so badly, my ones made it to one set of legs. One time I got them old enough to be able to eat blood worms (frozen) but I fouled up the water. This time I will get survivors
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shane
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heya!. well everything seems to be coming along. i have ordered some brine shrimp eggs over the internet that should arrive in 2 days. with the brine shrimp/. how long does it take for them to hatch? and should i feed them to the axolotls as soon as both the brine shrimp and the axolotls have hatched?
i also noticed on axoltol.org where they show the photographed stages of the eggs development there are air bubbles on the jelly surrounding the egg. does it need to have the air bubbles. i have an air stone but it doesn’t seem to be doing much. but the few that do have the air bubbles around them seem to be much healthier..,.
also about some of the eggs being cloudy. is it like this. (pic)
or this one?....
so should i get rid of the cloudy ones straight away?
also do all axoltols eat the eggs. so far mine havent eaten any!. i was in a way hopeing they would because i couldnt look after so many. so there are still about 50-60 in the main tank...
lol here is a pic of the two... because i can.
the female.... (still havent got a name. im thinking of Anja or Adah.pronouncing the a as an A...lol.. i dont know. iu havent even thought of names for the male... something starting with B though.lol... help!) *ahem*... what was i saying? oh yeah she is still really stressed... (by her gills facing foward)... is that just from laying eggs?. she has been like that for a while. maybe its because of the male now being in there. ?? but she is still eating which is good. she eats everything. she is such a pig. lol. where he only eats live worms! that i have to dig out of the garden every afternoon. lol
well i gotto go check out the eggs.
bye
i also noticed on axoltol.org where they show the photographed stages of the eggs development there are air bubbles on the jelly surrounding the egg. does it need to have the air bubbles. i have an air stone but it doesn’t seem to be doing much. but the few that do have the air bubbles around them seem to be much healthier..,.
also about some of the eggs being cloudy. is it like this. (pic)
or this one?....
so should i get rid of the cloudy ones straight away?
also do all axoltols eat the eggs. so far mine havent eaten any!. i was in a way hopeing they would because i couldnt look after so many. so there are still about 50-60 in the main tank...
lol here is a pic of the two... because i can.
the female.... (still havent got a name. im thinking of Anja or Adah.pronouncing the a as an A...lol.. i dont know. iu havent even thought of names for the male... something starting with B though.lol... help!) *ahem*... what was i saying? oh yeah she is still really stressed... (by her gills facing foward)... is that just from laying eggs?. she has been like that for a while. maybe its because of the male now being in there. ?? but she is still eating which is good. she eats everything. she is such a pig. lol. where he only eats live worms! that i have to dig out of the garden every afternoon. lol
well i gotto go check out the eggs.
bye
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shane
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hey its me again! lol evryone will be sick of me soon. how much brine shrimp will i need?. how many grams of eggs?.... and how many eggs is that?...i have no idea. i dont want to have too little amount of eggs. or toomuch that its a waste of money!.. ahh. lol...
and do u need food??. or because they are only going to be hatched and fed to the little axoltols that i wont need to feed them.???
also i found this.
Artemia Revolution: decapsulated brine shrimp eggs.
1,000,000 cysts
Brine shrimp eggs without shells. The eggs are preserved virtually indefinitely in a special fluid. Each hatch will provide around 10,000 brine shrimp.
at http://www.aquaticlifeaquariums.com.au/
does anyone know anything about that. is it good. or would normal eggs be fine even with the shells. do all the brine shrimp hatch. if not will they go with the ones that have when im getting them out. i read that it can kill the newly hatch axolotls if they eat the shell.
there was something else.... :S loloh yeah/ when i put the eggs into the thing to hatch them. howmany should i put in?...
thanks
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and do u need food??. or because they are only going to be hatched and fed to the little axoltols that i wont need to feed them.???
also i found this.
Artemia Revolution: decapsulated brine shrimp eggs.
1,000,000 cysts
Brine shrimp eggs without shells. The eggs are preserved virtually indefinitely in a special fluid. Each hatch will provide around 10,000 brine shrimp.
at http://www.aquaticlifeaquariums.com.au/
does anyone know anything about that. is it good. or would normal eggs be fine even with the shells. do all the brine shrimp hatch. if not will they go with the ones that have when im getting them out. i read that it can kill the newly hatch axolotls if they eat the shell.
there was something else.... :S loloh yeah/ when i put the eggs into the thing to hatch them. howmany should i put in?...
thanks
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anne-marie
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Generally brine shrimp suppliers have directions on the pack as to how much to put in - from memory, its only something like a teaspoon at a time. Re: the shell thing, once the shrimps hatch you need to strain them to only get the live shrimps - generally you get some shell as well - this is a pain in the you know what. No, I didn't have any food for the brine shrimps, they got eaten as soon as they hatched.
My female is not stressed at all now - and she wasn't when she was laying so I'm not sure whats going on with yours. Checked the water and all that? And no, my axies don't eat the eggs either - once they hatch, that's a whole different story.
The egg pics you posted - not cloudy. I think they are normal so you don't need to remove any of those.
My female is not stressed at all now - and she wasn't when she was laying so I'm not sure whats going on with yours. Checked the water and all that? And no, my axies don't eat the eggs either - once they hatch, that's a whole different story.
The egg pics you posted - not cloudy. I think they are normal so you don't need to remove any of those.
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nathan
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shane you know sea monkeys well they are what you are describing, well sea monkeys are brine shrimp but when you get them they are in the form that you just described (no eggs)
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lisa
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if you use normal eggs, when you turn off the air pump for the hatchery, all the cysts float to the top and the baby brine shrimp sink to the bottom. I found i'd suck up a few cysts, but there was nothing I could do, not like you can pick through and seperate them out though.
Search caudata for an article called "micro-foods" it has a great photo of a 2lt plastic bottle hatchery set up, which I based my milk bottle hatcheries on. From memory the recipe is, 2lt water, 1 tspn salt, 1/2 tspn cysts.
You will most likely need 2 or 3 hatcheries going at once staggered a day apart so you have food ready for daily or twice daily feedings.
Search caudata for an article called "micro-foods" it has a great photo of a 2lt plastic bottle hatchery set up, which I based my milk bottle hatcheries on. From memory the recipe is, 2lt water, 1 tspn salt, 1/2 tspn cysts.
You will most likely need 2 or 3 hatcheries going at once staggered a day apart so you have food ready for daily or twice daily feedings.
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shane
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hey thanks everyone for all your help. just a question about the eggs. most of them are very light in colour, like a creamy white. is that normal. i have two wild type axoltols. they dont look like they are albino, so its probably not a recesive thing. :S will they stay white-ish when they are growing or will they turn browny like normal wild type. i wish at least one was albino. i would have thought even if it was recesive in wild type axoltols that at least one in the 200 would be. or is it different in axolotls compared to other animals.