Why are salamanders outside of axolotls so hard to find CB?

[SpottedGummyFrog]

I don’t understand why it’s so hard to find anything but axolotls for sale. I’ve heard most newts breed readily, and I assume other species have been bred too.

Why is finding CB salamanders such a struggle in the US?

 

[Methos5K]

All newts are salamanders, and there are many species in the USA that are commonly bred. Spanish ribbed, Danube Crested, Alpine, Bluetail firebelly, Marbled, Kaiser, Lake Urmia newts are all found regularly in the fall when the newts are morphed and ready. Some of the more rarer species of newts can be found if you are patient and have money.

Now if you are referring to terrestrial salamanders, the reason why you don't see them captive bred is very easy to explain. Cost. There are many states in the USA that allow the collection of native salamanders. In certain times of the year it is very easy to take them from their breeding areas and then the various large internet reptile webstores sell them, cheaply. Breeders spend a LOT of money and time and work to raise salamanders from an egg all the way to a morphed individual ready for sale. I.e. my electric bill for just June was $377 and my blackworm bill was about $400.

Look later this year for some captive bred Western Tiger Salamanders from the site founder John Clare. He's been working hard at raising up some for the hobby. Otherwise get yourself a newt.

 

[SpottedGummyFrog]

All newts are salamanders, and there are many species in the USA that are commonly bred. Spanish ribbed, Danube Crested, Alpine, Bluetail firebelly, Marbled, Kaiser, Lake Urmia newts are all found regularly in the fall when the newts are morphed and ready. Some of the more rarer species of newts can be found if you are patient and have money.

Now if you are referring to terrestrial salamanders, the reason why you don't see them captive bred is very easy to explain. Cost. There are many states in the USA that allow the collection of native salamanders. In certain times of the year it is very easy to take them from their breeding areas and then the various large internet reptile webstores sell them, cheaply. Breeders spend a LOT of money and time and work to raise salamanders from an egg all the way to a morphed individual ready for sale. I.e. my electric bill for just June was $377 and my blackworm bill was about $400.

Look later this year for some captive bred Western Tiger Salamanders from the site founder John Clare. He's been working hard at raising up some for the hobby. Otherwise get yourself a newt.

If rarer species occasionally show up, do Amazon climbing salamanders exist in the US? I’d pay a crap ton for one of those

 

[Captive Bread]

If rarer species occasionally show up, do Amazon climbing salamanders exist in the US? I’d pay a crap ton for one of those

At this point, anything amphibious outside the US is never coming in. What is here is what is here and that is all we have to breed. If you're interested, there are people who breed arboreal salamanders which look almost as cool as they have sharp teeth and strong, visble jaw muscles. Breeders of it are few and they charge handsomely however.

 

[SpottedGummyFrog]

At this point, anything amphibious outside the US is never coming in. What is here is what is here and that is all we have to breed. If you're interested, there are people who breed arboreal salamanders which look almost as cool as they have sharp teeth and strong, visble jaw muscles. Breeders of it are few and they charge handsomely however.

How handsomely we talking?

 

[Captive Bread]

How handsomely we talking?

The thread appears to be deleted now but there was a breeder on fauna classifieds who sold a few CB specimens at 150 each a couple of months ago IIRC.

 

[SpottedGummyFrog]

The thread appears to be deleted now but there was a breeder on fauna classifieds who sold a few CB specimens at 150 each a couple of months ago IIRC.

That ain’t bad, especially considering fire salamanders are usually $200