What type of salamanders is that?

[DG Newts]

I found this 2 slamanders in the forest under a rock (Eastern Quebec Canada) and i have no idea what type they are. So does anybody know?

 

[Lertsch]

Those look like female red back salamanders to me.

 

[DG Newts]

Hey you're right! they even have the speckled black and white bellies :O
Thank you very much!

 

[sde]

Aren't redbacks usually supposed to have a stripe? Here in the west we have Western Redback salamanders ( P. vehiculum ) and they almost always have a stripe. I have never found one that doesn't. I don't know much about the eastern species, but I thought they did as well? Though it looks like the northern redback doesn't maybe. I don't know, it just doesn't look that much like a redback to me. Though like I said, I don't know much about the eastern species.

Its a lungless sal that's for sure.

 

[Dyelon]

Aren't redbacks usually supposed to have a stripe? Here in the west we have Western Redback salamanders ( P. vehiculum ) and they almost always have a stripe. I have never found one that doesn't. I don't know much about the eastern species, but I thought they did as well? Though it looks like the northern redback doesn't maybe. I don't know, it just doesn't look that much like a redback to me. Though like I said, I don't know much about the eastern species.

Its a lungless sal that's for sure.

Red Backs around the Maine area, P. cinereus, can be found in two different color morphs, the normal phase and then you have lead phase. These individuals seem to me to be lead phase P. cinereus where there is no stripe or any reddish brown color at all but will still be the same in size and the patterns on their underside will be the same as well.

 

[sde]

OK, thank for clearing that up Dyelon.

 

[Lertsch]

Ignore my statement saying they were female. When I was younger someone told me the ones without the red are all females and I keep forgetting that's not ture

 

[DG Newts]

Yeah i know lol