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found them in a pet store and i can identify them..

they have like the fire belly patterns under there bellys only faded...


 

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Re: what spicies is this?

Definitely looks Pachytriton to me, now which subspecies is the million dollar question. Here is a link to their care sheet, have a look and see if it helps at all.
 
Re: what spicies is this?

it looks to me like he is P. labiatus..

very interesting newts!!

i will try and find everything i can on them..

and i will get 2!


thnx very useful info




 
That's definitely a P. labiatus. And it's totally aquatic! I hope it was only out of the water for photo purposes...
Also, be careful about getting two, they're not necessarily friendly with each other.
 
otterwoman said:
That's definitely a P. labiatus. And it's totally aquatic! I hope it was only out of the water for photo purposes...
Also, be careful about getting two, they're not necessarily friendly with each other.
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Dawn is wise. Paddle tail newts, are quite territorial and aggressive. More times than not they will maim and injure one another when they are kept together. It is especially important to watch because they will often cohabitate well for a few weeks as they get over there pet shop ordeal.

Looks like the newt was on floating cork bark for the photo-op.
 
Abrahm, Dawn, what do you think the possibilties of it being Pachytriton sp. "B" are? I don't know what it is about it but it looks different than any of my labiatus, I just quite put my finger on whats different though. Just an opinion though and either way it still requires an aquatic setup and the labiatus requirements.
 
I doubt it. I've never seen species B in the pet store. Maybe it looks a little light to you in the picture, but I think it's just the picture, and it looks like it's really dark to me, and exactly like the P. labiatus I have.
 
I have a few old female Labiatus that look the same as the one pictured, bellies are very washed out, hardly and color left.
 
so for keeping them i will need only water area ?

nothing to climb on to?

from what i understand i will need some hiding places for them

so they wont fight over the same area ..


how often do you feed them?


what is a good price for them ?
 
so for keeping them i will need only water area ?
Yes.
nothing to climb on to?
No, they are fully aquatic.
from what i understand i will need some hiding places for them
Yes you will, at least one per newt.
so they wont fight over the same area ..
They're very territorial, how big is your tank? You'll need 45 L per newt.

how often do you feed them?
Really depends on the size of newt. Check out this link http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Pachytriton/Pachytriton.shtml

what is a good price for them ?
My cousin got his for around £25. It varies alot really.
 
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I agree with everything Ian said, though I will add that I have a large piece of floating cork in my labiatus tank, and sometimes one or the other will haul out onto it. So I think you should have at least one thing that either breaks the surface, or floats.
Where I live, they cost about $8 each.
Also, if you have more than one, if you can also put in a lot of vegetation, so they can hide that way too.
 
thnk you guys


i have another q!

will they be ok i i put some small fishi with them?

or they will just eat them ?


it would be very helpful if you posted your setups so i can see and take ideas..
 
Keeping fish with paddletails is generally a bad idea because it usually ends in the fish being eaten. Now it can be done but there is a lot of thought that needs to go into finding a fish that can tolerate the same conditions and is big enough to not be eaten, but then you run the risk of the fish stressing out your newt. So please do take all this into consideration before deciding on getting some fish.

Oh here is a link to one of my labiatus tanks.
http://caudata.org/forum/album.php?albumid=100&pictureid=1645
 
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yes i understand the risks and the problems i just wanted to hear for some people that keep them..


if you could post your setups that would be very helpful !
 
Definitely Pachytritus, couldn't help you beyond that.
 
Definitely add something they can climb up on. That is one of the first ways you'll know something is wrong with them. Big tank with lots of hides and as Dawn said, lots of vegetation is a plus. Mine use it to hide out in as well as their hides.
 
I also think I have a P. labiatus - I just got it rom a pet store that was going out o business, and they were unsure about it's I.D. Currently is is in a 20gal L that is 3/4 substrate, and 1/4 water that is only 3" deep. The reason it is like that is because it is being shared by a 13" Brown Basilisk and a normal size ire belly toad. The question I have is, do I seperate them now into there own tanks, or can I leave the toad in with either the basilisk or the P. libaiatus?

I believe it is a female do the the fact there are no white spots near the vent. Wide mouth, dark brown back with a red and black stripped belly pattern and a broad paddle shapped tail. Stocky, short legs and stubby toes. Mostly active at night and loves bee heart and crickets to eat. Has been eating freeze dried tubeflex worms at the pet store I got it from. Not good quality pics, but the above discription should help anyone I.D. it or me.
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Looks like a labiatus to me. Now I would seriously recomend you seperate everything as soon as possibe. Fire-belly toads are toxic and their toxins have been known to cause tankmates serious illness and even death. You might also want to see if your paddletail will eat worms, with the crickets the calcium and vitamin dust gets rinsed off as soon as they hit the water which does the paddletail no good.
 
Thank you for the help on the ID part and so you know, the Fire Belly is now in his own place, and the newt is getting a tank set for him now, just waiting on the silicone to dry so I can fill it and add stuff.

You have been very helpful and thanks once again.
 
Be sure to monitor the parameters and do water changes if it is not cycled.
 
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