What kind of Newt/Salamander is fully aquatic?

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DingoDoo

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Apart from Axolotls and Spanish Ribbed Newt what other creatures are fully aquatic, non poison/toxic and can be reared easy from eggs.. and eggs can be bought in the uk?
 
The Olm is fully aquatic I believe, it's pale cave salamander found in Europe, looks sort of like an Axy. Not sure if they make good pets though.

Texas Blind Salamander is also fully aquatic, can be found and caves and, yet again, looks a lot like an Axy.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Hope that helped :)

(Oh, adult Eastern Newts are basically fully-aquatic, they can go on land but spend the majority of their time in the water.)

Oh, Mudpuppies too I think.
 
Aaron Chris said:
The Olm is fully aquatic I believe, it's pale cave salamander found in Europe, looks sort of like an Axy. Not sure if they make good pets though.

Texas Blind Salamander is also fully aquatic, can be found and caves and, yet again, looks a lot like an Axy.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Hope that helped :)

(Oh, adult Eastern Newts are basically fully-aquatic, they can go on land but spend the majority of their time in the water.)

Oh, Mudpuppies too I think.
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You won't be getting any Olms as pets. Nor Texas Blind Salamanders.

I'm interested why DingoDoo? Are you planning to obtain an aquatic species? If it's your first time, then I'd agree with Evut or think about getting an Axolotl.
 
Shadow said:
You won't be getting any Olms as pets. Nor Texas Blind Salamanders.

I'm interested why DingoDoo? Are you planning to obtain an aquatic species? If it's your first time, then I'd agree with Evut or think about getting an Axolotl.
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I have a question.

Here in Ontario we can't actually buy Eastern Newts because they're everywhere here, even though they make good pets. We can buy the Chinese Fire Newts etc etc

In England can you buy Eastern Newts?
 
Paddle-tailed newts are fully aquatic too, but sourcing them is tricky
 
How about alpine newts? The most common subspecies (Ichthyosaura alpestris apuanus) is almost 100% aquatic, and they are quite pretty. There are breeders in the UK.
 
AngieD & Jennewt add another two great ideas. I've seen one paddle-tail newt in Shirley Aquatics before but only the once.
 
I think paddle-tails do not fit the "can be reared easy from eggs.. and eggs can be bought in the uk" description.
I would recommend thinking about the temperatures at which the newts will be kept and chose a species accordingly. C. orientalis and I. alpestris require lower temperatures than humans while other species are more warmth-tolerant.
 
Most caudate species geenrally offered in the hobby are fully aquatic in captivity. Also, there are plenty of threads asking this very question, you can use the search function to get to them easily.

Paddletails definitely don´t fit the requirements as you won´t find any eggs or larvae, not just in the UK, but anywhere.

I think I.alpestris is possibly the perfect species for UK weather and they are commonly available. As Jen says, they are also easy and very, very beautiful.
 
Azhael said:
Most caudate species geenrally offered in the hobby are fully aquatic in captivity. Also, there are plenty of threads asking this very question, you can use the search function to get to them easily.

Paddletails definitely don´t fit the requirements as you won´t find any eggs or larvae, not just in the UK, but anywhere.

I think I.alpestris is possibly the perfect species for UK weather and they are commonly available. As Jen says, they are also easy and very, very beautiful.
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Hmm didn't actually think about the 'Eggs or Larvae part'.

Off topic: Azhael, I've been so curious as to your avatar. Every time I read a post from you, I end staring at it wondering what it actually is? Some form of octopus/squid? :eek:
 
xD No, It´s the Flying Spaghetti Monster. His noodly appendages and his meatballs of might are much more powerful than any squid-based deity like Cthulhu...:p

I suposse the most commonly available newt eggs or larvae in the UK would be from I.alpestris, H.orientalis, C.pyrrhogaster or some Triturus. All of them are excellent choices, although perhaps H.orientalis is a bit more demanding to raise during the juvenile phase.
I would like to say that while P.waltl are not the most atractive newts, they are a most excellent choice, maybe even the superior one in terms of how easy to care for and raise they are.

As a side note, all newts produce toxins, but it´s nothing to be worried about as it´s not ever going to be a problem. Toxins are normally only released when the animal is highly stressed, injured or ill, and they are visible as a milky secretion. Contact with the skin is not dangerous, but mucoses and open wounds must be avoided. Captive caudates are tremendously unlikely to release toxins, in CB animals it´s almost unheard of.
 
Azhael said:
xD No, It´s the Flying Spaghetti Monster. His noodly appendages and his meatballs of might are much more powerful than any squid-based deity like Cthulhu...:p

I suposse the most commonly available newt eggs or larvae in the UK would be from I.alpestris, H.orientalis, C.pyrrhogaster or some Triturus. All of them are excellent choices, although perhaps H.orientalis is a bit more demanding to raise during the juvenile phase.
I would like to say that while P.waltl are not the most atractive newts, they are a most excellent choice, maybe even the superior one in terms of how easy to care for and raise they are.

As a side note, all newts produce toxins, but it´s nothing to be worried about as it´s not ever going to be a problem. Toxins are normally only released when the animal is highly stressed, injured or ill, and they are visible as a milky secretion. Contact with the skin is not dangerous, but mucoses and open wounds must be avoided. Captive caudates are tremendously unlikely to release toxins, in CB animals it´s almost unheard of.
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Since when has a flying spaghetti monster with meatballs been discovered? I'll leave that to the Greeks. :p

Where I live (Birmingham), it seems there are no breeders around at all. So find eggs etc for me is like finding Orientalis in Japan. That's why I keep my eye on the For Sale section.
 
People post them :)

I got my alpines off a breeder on here:

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The same for my red efts:

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I also got some ribbed newt eggs posted to me, but they werent packed properly and the postman damaged the container and they died :( The efts and alpines were packaged properly and arrived fit and well, not even particularly stressed :)

My paddletail is my absolutle favourite though, even if he is WC and bought from a pet shop :eek:

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Hes on sand now not gravel in case anyone was worried
 
Well, to be fair there´s as much chance of discovering a Flying Spaghetti Monster as there is of discovering any other deity :p

Don´t be afraid of getting eggs or juveniles posted to you. It´s very safe when done properly. Larvae can be shipped too, but it´s trickier. If i was restricted to the caudates i can find available in my local area i´d only have the orientalis xD
 
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