What happened to him?

[Nat Alie]

hello to all fans of axolotls. Two months ago I bought 2 axolotls - white and gray. All was well. They ate worms and food for axolots. Conditions of detention have not changed. I stopped eating 3 days ago. The white body turned yellow, and the gills became white instead of pink. The gray color has not changed. There is no plaque on the body and gills. Not active, white eats nothing. Gray takes food in his mouth and immediately spits it out. Veterinarians in my city know nothing about assholes and their diseases. Perhaps you can advise how to help axolotls, and explain to me what is wrong with them. Thanks.

 

[axolotl nerd]

hello to all fans of axolotls. Two months ago I bought 2 axolotls - white and gray. All was well. They ate worms and food for axolots. Conditions of detention have not changed. I stopped eating 3 days ago. The white body turned yellow, and the gills became white instead of pink. The gray color has not changed. There is no plaque on the body and gills. Not active, white eats nothing. Gray takes food in his mouth and immediately spits it out. Veterinarians in my city know nothing about assholes and their diseases. Perhaps you can advise how to help axolotls, and explain to me what is wrong with them. Thanks.

is it possible that the GFP is just showing through ?

 

[AMurry24537]

The picture does make it look a bit green, so it might be GFP? It does look pretty skinny though (ideal weight is where the widest part of the body is about the same width as the head). What have you been feeding them? How much do you feed them and how often?

What are your water parameters? In other words, what is the water temperature? Measuring with a liquid kit, what is the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and pH?

 

[Nat Alie]

Hello, what is a GFP?
My axolotl is now yellowish, in the photo it looks greenish due to poor lighting. Yes, he was very thin, did not eat anything for 6 days. I didn't know how to make him eat. Here I read about the method of feeding from a syringe, then for two days I give him food for axolotl diluted in water. But getting into the water to the aquarium axolotl spits out almost everything. All the time since the purchase fed axolotls worms from a pet store. Those worms as food were advised to me by pet store sellers when buying axolotls.
Now ammonia, nitrite, nitrate - 0.5, water hardness 8.0 and pH 8.0. It is now isolated from the gray in a plastic box.
The gray axolotl now eats crushed worms, it seems that it cannot swallow the whole. Grabs and spits out immediately. Now it seems to me that hom just hurts to swallow food. There are no signs of inflammation or foreign objects in the mouth of the white axolotl.
There are no signs of fungal disease on the skin. During 2 days of force-feeding, the gills in the white axolotl turned from white to light pink, but the skin is yellowish and he is lethargic and does not move.
I would be grateful for advice on what else I can do for my axe- kids.

 

[AMurry24537]

Hello, what is a GFP?
My axolotl is now yellowish, in the photo it looks greenish due to poor lighting. Yes, he was very thin, did not eat anything for 6 days. I didn't know how to make him eat. Here I read about the method of feeding from a syringe, then for two days I give him food for axolotl diluted in water. But getting into the water to the aquarium axolotl spits out almost everything. All the time since the purchase fed axolotls worms from a pet store. Those worms as food were advised to me by pet store sellers when buying axolotls.
Now ammonia, nitrite, nitrate - 0.5, water hardness 8.0 and pH 8.0. It is now isolated from the gray in a plastic box.
The gray axolotl now eats crushed worms, it seems that it cannot swallow the whole. Grabs and spits out immediately. Now it seems to me that hom just hurts to swallow food. There are no signs of inflammation or foreign objects in the mouth of the white axolotl.
There are no signs of fungal disease on the skin. During 2 days of force-feeding, the gills in the white axolotl turned from white to light pink, but the skin is yellowish and he is lethargic and does not move.
I would be grateful for advice on what else I can do for my axe- kids.

Hmm, okay.

GFP refers to a gene some axolotls have which allows parts of their bodies to glow greenish under a black light. If their eyes glow a little green, they have it.

How long are your axolotls? This helps to give a better idea of what kind of food they should be eating. Does the packaging for the worms say what kind they are? How long are the worms? Are they frozen or live worms?

Usually, once an axolotl is around 4 inches long, you should switch from bloodworms to earthworms. European nightcrawlers are the best, but Canadian nightcrawlers and red wigglers can work well too. All worms should be rinsed off in a separate cup of the aquarium water before being added to the aquarium. I usually scoop out some water, put in the worm, make sure all the gunk is off, then pick up the worm and put it in the aquarium. The water should not return to the aquarium.

It's encouraging that at least the gray one is trying to eat. Perhaps you need a fresher food source?

We will need more specific information about the water parameters. You say that ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates are ALL 0.5? What kind of test kit are you using? I recommend the API Freshwater Master Test Kit. The levels you want are for ammonia to be 0, nitrites to be 0, and for nitrates to be less than 40 ppm.

Also, the water temperature should be 15-18 Celsius and should NEVER go over 21 Celsius. This is very important. Do you have a thermometer to measure the temperature of your water?

 

[Nat Alie]

Good morning, very grateful to you for the dialogue and try to help me.
I have Axellotli for 4 months, I bought them as adults - 1 year, now their length is a little less than 15 cm. After the purchase, they have grown a little. They are ordinary, do not glow. Gray is normal, and white albino with yellow eyes. I don't know what the worms are called, they are alive, I buy them at a pet store. Earthworms are not sold in them, and I am afraid to collect them on the park because of a possible infection for axolotls.
I check water with LaMotte Water Check strips. Slightly elevated trace elements in the water. I don't know how to change it. I take water from the tap and she stand for several days. Every 1-2 days I replace 30% of the water in the aquarium. Once a week or 1.5 weeks I clean the whole aquarium and wash the plants and stones. I have a thermometer, I keep the temperature 18 *, it is very rare 20, when this happens, I add ice in a bottle from the freezer. There have been no changes lately. They just stopped eating. Gray now eats crushed worms, it is more active than white. I feed white axolotl food fór axolotls, diluted in water . He is thin, his gills are light pink, it seems to me that they have not become as lush as before.
When I release him into the water, he spits out almost all the food who I gave him with a syringe. But he has already begun to walk on the bottom of the aquarium. He also runs away from me when I want to catch him for feeding. Maybe it's worth refrigerating my axolotl? Today I will go to another store to find a new kind of worms for them.
Thank you for the advice and for your not indifference And sensitive to my problem.

 

[Pigalit]

Good morning, very grateful to you for the dialogue and try to help me.
I have Axellotli for 4 months, I bought them as adults - 1 year, now their length is a little less than 15 cm. After the purchase, they have grown a little. They are ordinary, do not glow. Gray is normal, and white albino with yellow eyes. I don't know what the worms are called, they are alive, I buy them at a pet store. Earthworms are not sold in them, and I am afraid to collect them on the park because of a possible infection for axolotls.
I check water with LaMotte Water Check strips. Slightly elevated trace elements in the water. I don't know how to change it. I take water from the tap and she stand for several days. Every 1-2 days I replace 30% of the water in the aquarium. Once a week or 1.5 weeks I clean the whole aquarium and wash the plants and stones. I have a thermometer, I keep the temperature 18 *, it is very rare 20, when this happens, I add ice in a bottle from the freezer. There have been no changes lately. They just stopped eating. Gray now eats crushed worms, it is more active than white. I feed white axolotl food fór axolotls, diluted in water . He is thin, his gills are light pink, it seems to me that they have not become as lush as before.
When I release him into the water, he spits out almost all the food who I gave him with a syringe. But he has already begun to walk on the bottom of the aquarium. He also runs away from me when I want to catch him for feeding. Maybe it's worth refrigerating my axolotl? Today I will go to another store to find a new kind of worms for them.
Thank you for the advice and for your not indifference And sensitive to my problem.

Mm I'm pretty sure you aren't suppose to feed axolotl those kinds of worms. They are more popular with land lizards such as bearded dragons but axolotls dont have teeth. From the image they look like mealworms and mealworms are too hard for axolotls to eat/digest.

Mealworms aren't the best diet for axolotls unfortunately. They have a tough exo-skeleton that axolotls find hard to digest and arent very nutricious to say the least but their are many alternatives -from google

 

[AMurry24537]

Good morning, very grateful to you for the dialogue and try to help me.
I have Axellotli for 4 months, I bought them as adults - 1 year, now their length is a little less than 15 cm. After the purchase, they have grown a little. They are ordinary, do not glow. Gray is normal, and white albino with yellow eyes. I don't know what the worms are called, they are alive, I buy them at a pet store. Earthworms are not sold in them, and I am afraid to collect them on the park because of a possible infection for axolotls.
I check water with LaMotte Water Check strips. Slightly elevated trace elements in the water. I don't know how to change it. I take water from the tap and she stand for several days. Every 1-2 days I replace 30% of the water in the aquarium. Once a week or 1.5 weeks I clean the whole aquarium and wash the plants and stones. I have a thermometer, I keep the temperature 18 *, it is very rare 20, when this happens, I add ice in a bottle from the freezer. There have been no changes lately. They just stopped eating. Gray now eats crushed worms, it is more active than white. I feed white axolotl food fór axolotls, diluted in water . He is thin, his gills are light pink, it seems to me that they have not become as lush as before.
When I release him into the water, he spits out almost all the food who I gave him with a syringe. But he has already begun to walk on the bottom of the aquarium. He also runs away from me when I want to catch him for feeding. Maybe it's worth refrigerating my axolotl? Today I will go to another store to find a new kind of worms for them.
Thank you for the advice and for your not indifference And sensitive to my problem.

I agree with Pigalit, you should definitely have other worms. Those ones are not very healthy for them. I don't know what's available in your area, but sometimes you can find the right worms for sale online. Another option is pellets, but they have to be made specifically for axolotls. Some people have been able to use salmon pellets. No matter what, they should be at least 40% protein, if not more. Again, I don't know if these would be available in your country, but Invert Aquatics sells some good ones.

Your axolotls sound quite small for their age, but that's not necessarily anything to worry about. For reference, mine is about twice that size (he's a year and a half old). Average size for an adult is somewhere in between the two sizes. It's also possible that they're actually younger than you were told.

Again, I would highly recommend getting some kind of liquid-based test kit. They are much more accurate than strip tests.

I'm curious, when you say that you wash the stones and plants, what do you mean? You're not using soap, right? Soap can be very dangerous to axolotls. I would recommend rinsing everything off in the water you have taken from the tank.

I'm also curious about your feeding methods. It sounds as if you are trying to catch and force feed them. Is this just because they are sick or do you usually do that? I typically just drop food in the tank near my axolotl and he finds it, even if it takes a few minutes.

I would not recommend fridging your axolotl, as it can be very difficult to do correctly. For now, I would focus on changing the food to earthworms (though I agree, do NOT just pick them up in the park) or amphibian/fish pellets that are at least 40% protein.

 

[Nat Alie]

Доброго ранку, дуже вдячний вам за діалог і спробуйте мені допомогти. У мене Акселотлі вже 4 місяці, купував їх дорослим - 1 рік, зараз їх довжина трохи менше 15 см. Після покупки вони трохи виросли. Вони звичайні, не світяться. Сірий - це нормально, а білий альбінос з жовтими очима. Не знаю, як називають глистів, вони живі, купую їх у зоомагазині. Дощових черв’яків в них не продають, і я боюся збирати їх на вулиці через можливу інфекцію для прискорювачів.
Я перевіряю воду за допомогою смужка LaMotte Water Check. Трохи підвищені мікроелементи у воді. Я не знаю, як це змінити. Беру воду з-під крани і стою кілька днів. Кожні 1-2 дні я замінюю 30% води в акваріумі. Раз на тиждень або 1,5 тижні я прибираю весь акваріум і мію рослини та каміння. У мене є термометр, я підтримую температуру 18 *, дуже рідко 20, коли це трапляється, додаємо лід у пляшку з морозилки. Останнім часом змін не було. Вони просто переставили їсти. Зараз сірий рівень підрібнених черв'яків, він активний за білого. Годую білою їжею, розведеною у воді, для аксолотлів. Він худий, його зябра ніжно-рожевий, мені здається, вони не стали такими пішними, як раніше.

Мм, я майже впевнений, що ви не повинні годувати аксолотль такими видами глистів. Вони більш популярні серед сухопутних ящірок, таких як бородаті дракони, але аксолотли не мають зубів. За своїм виглядом вони виглядають як борошняні черви, і борошняні черви занадто важкі для того, щоб аксолоти могли їх їсти / перетравлювати.

На жаль , борошнисті черви не найкраща дієта для аксолотів . Вони мають жорсткий екзоскелет, який аксолотлам важко перетравлювати, і вони, м’яко кажучи, не дуже поживні, але їх є багато альтернатив - від google

Так, ти маєш рацію, вони їх важко перетравили. У калі було багато хітину. Я вже купував інші типи глистів: заморожені дуже дрібні червоні та м’які білі короткі черв’ячки. Я не пам’ятав імені. Сьогодні я нагодував аксолоти новою їжею. Тож сірий не їсть жодного з нових видів глистів. Білий САМОСТІЙНО з’їв 3 ковтки дрібних червоних черв’ячків. Але сьогодні ніхто з них не какав. Якщо запор, що для них можна зробити? Дякую за всі поради! Сподіваюся, з моїми дітками все буде добре.

 

[axolotl nerd]

Доброго ранку, дуже вдячний вам за діалог і спробуйте мені допомогти. У мене Акселотлі вже 4 місяці, купував їх дорослим - 1 рік, зараз їх довжина трохи менше 15 см. Після покупки вони трохи виросли. Вони звичайні, не світяться. Сірий - це нормально, а білий альбінос з жовтими очима. Не знаю, як називають глистів, вони живі, купую їх у зоомагазині. Дощових черв’яків в них не продають, і я боюся збирати їх на вулиці через можливу інфекцію для прискорювачів.
Я перевіряю воду за допомогою смужка LaMotte Water Check. Трохи підвищені мікроелементи у воді. Я не знаю, як це змінити. Беру воду з-під крани і стою кілька днів. Кожні 1-2 дні я замінюю 30% води в акваріумі. Раз на тиждень або 1,5 тижні я прибираю весь акваріум і мію рослини та каміння. У мене є термометр, я підтримую температуру 18 *, дуже рідко 20, коли це трапляється, додаємо лід у пляшку з морозилки. Останнім часом змін не було. Вони просто переставили їсти. Зараз сірий рівень підрібнених черв'яків, він активний за білого. Годую білою їжею, розведеною у воді, для аксолотлів. Він худий, його зябра ніжно-рожевий, мені здається, вони не стали такими пішними, як раніше.

Так, ти маєш рацію, вони їх важко перетравили. У калі було багато хітину. Я вже купував інші типи глистів: заморожені дуже дрібні червоні та м’які білі короткі черв’ячки. Я не пам’ятав імені. Сьогодні я нагодував аксолоти новою їжею. Тож сірий не їсть жодного з нових видів глистів. Білий САМОСТІЙНО з’їв 3 ковтки дрібних червоних черв’ячків. Але сьогодні ніхто з них не какав. Якщо запор, що для них можна зробити? Дякую за всі поради! Сподіваюся, з моїми дітками все буде добре.

well... can’t read this

 

[Nat Alie]

Hi, thanks for the feedback and advice. When I bought axolotls, there were only 6 of them in the store in the aquarium, I chose the biggest and most complete ones, because my daughter was afraid to look at bitten axolotls and cried that they were in pain and they would die. Then we took those axolotls that had only 3 paws (they then regenerated). And others were without all paws, one without gills. My axolotls are so small that they were often hungry for a year. I fed them with tweezers, lowered the worm into the aquarium, and axolotls rushed at him like hungry dogs. If a worm fell, they did not lift or eat from the floor. I read that they have eyes on top of their heads and can't see what's under their feet. When they got sick, they didn't respond to the worms I gave, even when I touched the worm in their mouths. And from the syringe began to feed only white axolotl, when he was almost a week hungry, pale and motionless. Gray eats pieces of worm that I bring to him with tweezers.

 

[Nat Alie]

I wash the plants with cold water, and the aquarium and the stones only with hot soapy water. Axelotli is then in a plastic box in his old water. When everything gets cold, I add new cold settled water somewhere 30-40%, and old water 60-70% filtered through a net from garbage.

 

[Pigalit]

I wash the plants with cold water, and the aquarium and the stones only with hot soapy water. Axelotli is then in a plastic box in his old water. When everything gets cold, I add new cold settled water somewhere 30-40%, and old water 60-70% filtered through a net from garbage.

You shouldn't be using soap at all. Я не впевнений, в чому проблема з вашою сокирою, але борошняні черв'яки і мило в акваріумній воді сумнівні

 

[Nat Alie]

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You shouldn't be using soap at all. Я не впевнений, в чому проблема з вашою сокирою, але борошняні черв'яки і мило в акваріумній воді сумнівні

I don't write well in English, I wanted to write that I wash everything without soap. I will give new food, I have already bought it

 

[Pigalit]

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I don't write well in English, I wanted to write that I wash everything without soap. I will give new food, I have already bought it

Oooh okay, that's good to hear.

 

[axolotl nerd]

Oooh okay, that's good to hear.

yay!!

 

[EasternRomioi3]

@Nat Alie

How is your axolotl? Do they like the new food?

 

[Nat Alie]

Привіт, дякую за турботу про мої аксолоти. Здається, все покращується. Білий харчується самостійно, без шприца. Але все-таки дуже мало, 2-3 білих хробака або 1-2 пучка дрібних червоних. Він став трохи активнішим, гуляючи по дну акваріума. Зябра ніжно-рожеві, мені здається, вони не стали такими товстими, як раніше. Він вже біло-рожевий, а не жовтий. Сірий також погано їсть. Раніше він був жадібний до їжі, але тепер я мушу тримати їжу біля його рота довгий час, щоб він міг її їсти. Але він активно рухається в акваріумі. Ми сподіваємось, що з ними все буде добре. Бажаю вам гарного дня та здоров’я вашому аксолотлю

 

[axolotl nerd]

yay!!

 

[EasternRomioi3]

Continue to be vigilant, glad they're eating.