What Colour Am I?

[shelley66]

Can anyone tell me what colour this axie is?

 

[gr33neyes]

looks like a golden albino/ albino to me. Are the eyes red?

 

[shelley66]

The eyes are like a "baby" pink, I suppose you could say pastel pink.

 

[Kaysie]

Yep. Golden albino.

 

[shelley66]

Thanks for that. I have to say though he lookes darker in the photo than he looks in the flesh!

 

[Kaysie]

You'll note they'll change shades from light to dark, depending on what's going on. Generally, they get darker when they're more active (like when eating). They can also go pale when they're 'sleeping'.

 

[lisalee2]

Yep defently golden albino,its a little stunner, axolotls do change coulour mine do expechaly my wild type adult male when a sleep and relaxing he goes quite grey also the light that shines on there tanks can change the way they look but when active he goes dark again, im tginking about geting a goldie as we have 2 wildtypes and 2 lutistics and need another boy so our boy has a mate as the rest are girls thats on there own as our boy kept on geting the girls pregnant. but dont worrie the coulour can change slightly.

 

[Neurus]

I would argue melanoid albino. A bit like this one
http://k41.pbase.com/u44/johnclare/large/28756256.melanoid_albino_950copy.jpg

the reason is i understand photography and a flash unit will cause a heavy contrast which will make a very pale yellow pigment look a lot darker than real life when against a white surrounding

 

[Kaysie]

Melanoid albinos have only a slight hint of yellow on them, and are not completely yellow. Additionally, you can clearly see iridophores on the gills, which are notably absent in melanoid albinos.

 

[Neurus]

Melanoid albinos have only a slight hint of yellow on them, and are not completely yellow. Additionally, you can clearly see iridophores on the gills, which are notably absent in melanoid albinos.

iridophores would surely only reflect a blue/green hue of light and the colour temperature on this photo suggests otherwise. Secondly i did mention that the contrast would be raised because of the flash which would make the contrast between a light yelow and a white much more so the yellow would appear darker. I am willing to bet good money that the yellow on that axolotl in this picture is much paler in real life than it is in the photo.
Also it is very clear to see even from that photo above that the axolotl is not completely yellow.

I am still putting my neck out and saying it could be a melanoid albino, Actually i am pretty certain. Another photograph taken with the tank possibly being outdoors or by a window to remove the flash influence may prove surprising

 

[Daniel]

I am still putting my neck out and saying it could be a melanoid albino, Actually i am pretty certain. Another photograph taken with the tank possibly being outdoors or by a window to remove the flash influence may prove surprising

A photograph taken of the eye from the right angle might clarify this - melanoids do not have any "shiny ring" in their eyes.
I personally think that the animal in the picture is a golden albino with less xanthophores than normal.

 

[Kaysie]

Often, the reflection of light from iridophores looks golden (as can be seen on numerous axolotl photos posted here/axolotl.org/CC/the galleries/etc). I'm not sure what you mean that iridophores reflect blue/green light. I've seen my fair share of axolotls all over the world, raised dozens, traded 'interesting' individuals, and I have never seen iridophores reflect any color other than golden.

 

[Neurus]

Often, the reflection of light from iridophores looks golden (as can be seen on numerous axolotl photos posted here/axolotl.org/CC/the galleries/etc). I'm not sure what you mean that iridophores reflect blue/green light. I've seen my fair share of axolotls all over the world, raised dozens, traded 'interesting' individuals, and I have never seen iridophores reflect any color other than golden.

The light of the flash would be reflected, and since it is travelling through water it would come back through the lens with a blue hue

 

[Bellabelloo]

Sorry ,I have no understanding of photography ..wish I did. But i agree this little one is albino, tried looking at the link but it would not open.

 

[Neurus]

Sorry ,I have no understanding of photography ..wish I did. But i agree this little one is albino, tried looking at the link but it would not open.

Hey bella are you agreeing that its golden albino or melanoid albino? lol

 

[Neurus]

The more i look at that picture the more i am certain that is NOT a golden albino

 

[DantezGirl]

is it possible to get white albino from golden albino and on average how often does it happen

 

[Kaysie]

Golden albinos are (D/x, M/x, a/a). Depending on the genetics of the parents, you can get white, golden, or melanoid albinos.

 

[Daniel]

Golden albinos are (D/x, M/x, a/a). Depending on the genetics of the parents, you can get white, golden, or melanoid albinos.

...and they are also Ax/? - that's why they are golden and not white

@Neurus: The more I look at the picture the more I am sure that we won't come to any clearcut conclusion unless we get another picture.
By the way - I've never seen a (yellow) melanoid with xhanthophores. That doesn't mean that there aren't any as far as I know but it might be interesting to see one clearly visualized.

 

[Kaysie]

Daniel, of course! Thanks for pointing out my error.

For clarification:
-D/x causes the migration of color cells off the neural crest (with d/d being no migration, leading to leucistics and contributing to white albinos)
-M/x controls the production of iridophores (with m/m being no production of iridophores (shiny pigment), causing melanoid animals, also a reduction in xanthophores)
-A/x is the production of melanophores (the dark pigment. a/a animals have no melanophores and are albino)
-Ax/x is the production of xanthophores, the 'yellow' pigment (ax/ax being axanthic, or white with no yellow and reduced iridophores).