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What amphibians could i keep in this enclosure that is relatively easy to keep? I only would like to keep one of these. May i see a list of the different animals?
 

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To be honest you need to work around this by looking at the different species care sheets first, rather than build a lovely enclosure and then try to find something to live in it.
Have a look through this list below and see which you can provide the best care for. Then look through the forum and see what others have said about the species. It will take time and you need to be patient :D
Caudata Culture Caresheets
 
I agree with Julia. It's much better to pick a species, and then tailor-make an enclosure to its specifications.
 
I looked. I have a reptile expo coming up and this is my tank to put something in it. How are axolotls? How many could i keep in a 40 gallon critter cage that is cut in two. So they would get a 20 gallon side.
 
You can find out by reading the axie care sheet. That tank cannot house even one axie. Why would you go to an expo and present something you don't even have yet? It sounds like you're doing everything in a wildly backwards order. Tank looks nice though.
 
frogman said:
I looked. I have a reptile expo coming up and this is my tank to put something in it. How are axolotls? How many could i keep in a 40 gallon critter cage that is cut in two. So they would get a 20 gallon side.
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Frogman, please listen to what people tell you. During your short time on this forum you have been given lots of great advice which doesn’t appear to be sinking in. This is an enjoyable hobby in which one can learn about fascinating animals and how to care for them properly. It is not a competition to see who can fill the most tanks with animals in the shortest possible time. Members here will not respect you for the size of your collection or even the species you have in your collection. Respect is earned by demonstrating you can care for your animals properly by providing optimum conditions for long term survival and maybe even breeding.

In the 7 weeks since you joined this forum you have obtained more wild caught animals than I care to count and you still seem hell-bent on adding further to your collection. I’m sure you can understand that for a forum like ours which endorses captive bred animals it’s frustrating to see. It’s also very sad to see yet another thread about you wanting new animals whilst the crocodile newts you purchased only a few days ago are sick or dying.

Make us all proud by leaving that tank empty.
 
I do listen. I do every thing everyone tells me to. The axolotls will be sold at the reptile expo. I would buy one there. Not present. I would sell my animals to get one 55 gallon tank or larger and keep and breed different species properly in it. I love my pets and it would be hard. I feel that people deserve them more than me. Soon this hobby might end for me because of my lack of care.It is hard to care for my animals with a very restricting mom. I cant Get bigger tanks for their proper care because of rules. Oh well I gave it a good run for its money. It was one hobby that I really liked.
 
I am trying to get the crocodile newts back to health. I will do anything to keep them healthy. Even sell them to some one who can cure them. I will not get axolotls.
 
I meant lack of care knowledge. sorry.
 
It's one thing to enjoy a hobby. It's another to start hoarding.

Focus on one or two species that are common, captive bred, and healthy. Create the most beautiful, environmentally correct setup you can for them. Your setups are lovely; no one would contradict that! But you've gone off the deep end with it.

And if you can't care for animals properly, don't get them at all. Just don't. It hurts my heart to see people acquire sick animals and then not have the knowledge and resources to care for them.
 
frogman, I sincerely believe you have a love for this hobby - the tank you put together above is beautiful and obviously well thought out (though may be more suitable for a frog species like Dendrobates), but I agree with Mark and Kaysie - the best possible thing you can do is slow down. There's a lot to learn in this hobby. Focus on the animals you have now, and when you feel you're ready to expand, buy captive bred. Wild caught animals are almost exclusively in poor health once they reach the consumer - a person new to the hobby has a very low chance at keeping these animals alive past a month or two.
 
Thank you for your words. You have given be a lot to think about. I will focus on the animals that I have. I will only get supplies at the Expo. I am in a show at our museum of science and industry. I am very exited about that. All my animals are doing very well. The crocodile newts are getting better.
 
good to hear your newts do better :)

Consider this: salamanders and newts are long-lived creatures with a slow pace of life. The best way to enjoy them is to slow down to their level. I think you've been overtaken by your excitement for this new hobby - understandable, but now it's time to slow down, watch your animals and learn. Discover their rhythms. Sit and watch. Read a lot, on this forum and in books. Spend money on books, not more newts. Go out into nature and observe them in the wild. This hobby isn't just about owning them, but about learning about their biology, their conservation, and appreciating their beauty and diversity.

They are very zen-like creatures. Those kweichos, if they recover, may be with you for many years. They may be with you through college, into your first job, and until you have a family. Someday you might show those same animals to your own kids. Seriously - Many of us here have had the same newts for over a decade. I've had my fire bellies for 13 years.

So even if this first experience turns out to be a bad one, you do not have to give up on this hobby. It's a passion for a lifetime, and there are many more ways of enjoying it besides getting too many newts!
 
Although this is my 4th year in the hobby. I have read loads of books and do lots of research. All my animals have been a great success except for these kweichows. I guess because there wasn't a care sheet it was hard for me to get proper info. Here is the list of animals i currently have

Tiger salamanders 2
Marbled salamander 1
fire bellied toads 3
whites tree frog 1
big eyed tree frog 1
kweichow crocodile newts (tylototriton cf kweichowensis) 4
bumble bee dart frogs 2
 
frogman said:
Tiger salamanders 2
Marbled salamander 1
fire bellied toads 3
whites tree frog 1
big eyed tree frog 1
kweichow crocodile newts (tylototriton cf kweichowensis) 4
bumble bee dart frogs 2
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to be honest, I think that's probably too many for you in your current situation. You're spreading yourself too thin, and that comes at the cost at your enjoyment of this hobby.

Here's what I would do if I were you: find new homes for all but one or two of your species; preferably keep those that don't need much space, since your Mom put a limit on tank size. Then concentrate all your herping efforts and mothering instinct on those few. Think depth, not breadth :) Who knows, you may even breed a species eventually if you are able to provide it with the best and thorough care.
 
Molch said:
to be honest, I think that's probably too many for you in your current situation. You're spreading yourself too thin, and that comes at the cost at your enjoyment of this hobby.

Here's what I would do if I were you: find new homes for all but one or two of your species; preferably keep those that don't need much space, since your Mom put a limit on tank size. Then concentrate all your herping efforts and mothering instinct on those few. Think depth, not breadth :) Who knows, you may even breed a species eventually if you are able to provide it with the best and thorough care.
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Listen who is talking, the chick who bought all the L. vulgaris vulgaris from Michael, and now I can't even get one! :D
 
FRANCOIS said:
Listen who is talking, the chick who bought all the L. vulgaris vulgaris from Michael, and now I can't even get one! :D
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uh oh - I been busted, my true and selfish nature exposed! :eek: :proud:

*note to frogman: I'm an olde fartess who's been herping since the hills were flat and who earns money and who no longer needs to answer to her Mom (well most of the times..) and it took me over a decade to decide I finally have the time, space and money to maintain more than one newt species :) So...my above advice still goes ;)

**yo Francois - I think Michael has L. v. ampelensis now...same difference, non?
:)
 
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Molch said:
uh oh - I been busted, my true and selfish nature exposed! :eek: :proud:

*note to frogman: I'm an olde fartess who's been herping since the hills were flat and who earns money and who no longer needs to answer to her Mom (well most of the times..) and it took me over a decade to decide I finally have the time, space and money to maintain more than one newt species :) So...my above advice still goes ;)

**yo Francois - I think Michael has L. v. ampelensis now...same difference, non?
:)
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Mais non !!! vulgaris vulgaris is what I want!!!! ;-)
 
ah, quelle malheur! :(
 
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