Water Changes during cycling

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Hi guys, i just got a new tank and currently cycling it, however the sand is making the water quite murky and i was wondering if i could do some water changes during the cycle?
 
i would say leave it the snad will settle and i wouldn't do water changes just yet.
 
and i also just tested my Ph level,

results - 6.6 :( and i'm only on the 2nd day of cycling! Am i doing anything wrong?
 
Ph is separate to cycling. 6.6 is fine as long as it remains stable. Axolotls can live in PH of 6.5-8.

With the water changes, do you have any axolotls in the tank? If not I wouldn't worry about doing water changes. Here is an article about cycling: http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/cyclingEDK.shtml If you do have axolotls in the tank, you will need to do 20% water changes when the water shows ammonia or nitrIte >0.
 
No, i haven't got any axolotls yet. I'm planning to buy them next week from Caribbean market.
 
Aaron,

In my opinion, I wouldn't purchase an axolotl just as yet because I can guarantee you that your tank will not be cycled as of next week. I know it's exciting to get a new pet :p but as the saying goes "only fools rush in" and I was one once with getting my axolotl prematurely. So the best thing to do is to wait until your tank has been cycled because a 'fish-less cycle' is better than the 'fish-cycling'. Hypothetically speaking, shoud you get your axolotl next week you experience a massive ammonia spike (which was what happened in my case) and your axolotl doesn't withstand the excessive concentration it will inevitably succumb to disease and even death :(...

On another note, pH plays an imperative role in nitrification (a.k.a cycling). Nitrification will reach maximum saturation at pH values ranging between 7.2-8.3. Anything beyond 8.3 (i.e. more alkaline- high pH) will reduce the effectiveness of nitrification. Similarly, nitrification will decrease in acidic conditions; when pH is at 7.0 (neutral) nitrification will drop to less than 50% optimal efficiency and <30% when pH is 6.5, then is practically non-existent at 6.0 with only 10% efficiency. But on a positive note, the nitrifying bacteria do not die, they just cease all metabolic activities.

Oxygen also plays a vital role as well because nitrifiers are aerobic, that is they require oxygen in order to thrive. Unfortunately, nitrifiers lack the ability to utilise oxygen effectively, especially when in competition for oxygen with the community of bacteria that are breaking down organic matter. Therefore the more oxygen you supply your tank with, the quicker the cycling process.

Never the less, best of luck with your soon-to-be axolotl :D

Jay.
 
oh and i forgot to mention, i'm using stuff from a previously set up tank (one including a live plant).
Will it speed up the process?
 
I'll repeat, if your PH is between 6.5-8 you are fine, no need to alter it so don't worry if it's not exactly at the ideal of 7.3-7.6. Axolotls can have a wide range of PH that is suitable for habitat.


As far as using other tank items to speed up the cycling, this can speed up things but not necessarily - was it moved straight from the other tank into your axie tank? It needs to be moved before the bacteria die. It can take between about 3-10 weeks for cycling. I used a bunch of plants from a friend and my tank cycled in 3 weeks... but I can't verify that it was the plants! Just keep testing your water and taking the advice of that cycling link.
 
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