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steve
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OKAY: Found larvae in a large marsh pond with cattails and dead trees. ( i also found a snapping turtle and alot of eastern spotted newts Notophthalmus v. viridescens) The area where this is, has been told to me by someone that the surrounding woods/woodlands contain: spotteds ambystoma, redbacks plethodon, slimys plethodon, efts Notophthalmus, duskies desmognathus(in creeks).
*The larvae are from 1" - 1 1/2" long.*
Here's the list of what (may be "to my knowledge") in my range where the pond is along with insight on some research/questions on each to try and tell what these are:
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Common Mudpuppy Necturus maculosus (are these larvae bigger then 1 1/2"? range map is scarce distribution)
Jefferson Salamander Ambystoma jeffersonianum(they like swamps/ponds and have larvae)
Blue-spotted Salamander Ambystoma laterale (same)
Spotted Salamander Ambystoma maculatum (larvae are 1/2"-2 1/2" and MAY BE IN THAT WOODLAND AREA SUPPOSEDLY)
Red-spotted Newt Notophthalmus v. viridescens (this is what i found in adult form in same pond BUT, was told larvae dont go over 1")
Northern Dusky Salamander Desmognathus fuscus (larvae transform at 1 1/2" BUT like brooks? and MAY BE IN THAT WOODLAND AREA SUPPOSEDLY)
Allegheny Dusky Salamander Desmognathus ochrophaeus (larvae transform at 1" and like brooks?)
Wehrle's Salamander Plethodon wehrlei (does this "like slimys" have babies on land or larvae in water?)
Four-toed Salamander Hemidactylium scutatum (has only 4 toes on back feet MY LARVAE ONLY HAVE 4 toes "that i can count" BUT larvae transform at 7/8" and they like mountain environment)
Northern Spring Salamander Gyrinophilus p. porphyriticus (would i see any RED color? hang out under rocks in water more like creeks not ponds?)
Northern Two-lined Salamander Eurycea bislineata (like brooks not ponds and are VERY TINY?)
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OKAY, now thats my questions and research on each sallie that it might be in my range. You can see why im frustrated.
*sorry not to have photo, scanner died and larvae "i feel" are too delicate to keep moving*
let me know which one you feel it is,
Steve
*note: only other sallies in NY state but not in my range map are: hellbender, marbled, eastern tiger, redback(no larvae), slimys (no larvae), northern red, longtail.
*The larvae are from 1" - 1 1/2" long.*
Here's the list of what (may be "to my knowledge") in my range where the pond is along with insight on some research/questions on each to try and tell what these are:
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Common Mudpuppy Necturus maculosus (are these larvae bigger then 1 1/2"? range map is scarce distribution)
Jefferson Salamander Ambystoma jeffersonianum(they like swamps/ponds and have larvae)
Blue-spotted Salamander Ambystoma laterale (same)
Spotted Salamander Ambystoma maculatum (larvae are 1/2"-2 1/2" and MAY BE IN THAT WOODLAND AREA SUPPOSEDLY)
Red-spotted Newt Notophthalmus v. viridescens (this is what i found in adult form in same pond BUT, was told larvae dont go over 1")
Northern Dusky Salamander Desmognathus fuscus (larvae transform at 1 1/2" BUT like brooks? and MAY BE IN THAT WOODLAND AREA SUPPOSEDLY)
Allegheny Dusky Salamander Desmognathus ochrophaeus (larvae transform at 1" and like brooks?)
Wehrle's Salamander Plethodon wehrlei (does this "like slimys" have babies on land or larvae in water?)
Four-toed Salamander Hemidactylium scutatum (has only 4 toes on back feet MY LARVAE ONLY HAVE 4 toes "that i can count" BUT larvae transform at 7/8" and they like mountain environment)
Northern Spring Salamander Gyrinophilus p. porphyriticus (would i see any RED color? hang out under rocks in water more like creeks not ponds?)
Northern Two-lined Salamander Eurycea bislineata (like brooks not ponds and are VERY TINY?)
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OKAY, now thats my questions and research on each sallie that it might be in my range. You can see why im frustrated.
*sorry not to have photo, scanner died and larvae "i feel" are too delicate to keep moving*
let me know which one you feel it is,
Steve
*note: only other sallies in NY state but not in my range map are: hellbender, marbled, eastern tiger, redback(no larvae), slimys (no larvae), northern red, longtail.