Tiger sub-species help?

[RilWater]

Hello, I posted this in the "beginner" sections, but I believe it should have been posted here instead. In summary, I have several very healthy tigers and I understand their dietary/environmental needs. What I would like to know is if it is possible to tell more about what sub-species a particular specimen is just from looking at it. I would also like to know what region of North America they most likely originated from. Any tips or recommendations for quality resources is appreciated!

 

[sde]

Hi,

They all look like Ambystoma mavortium mavortium to me, though it is hard to say with tiger sals sometimes.
Take a look at this map, they could come from anywhere within the blue area, if i am correct on the subspecies.
http://www.peteducation.com/images/articles/no_salamander_map.gif

 

[Tiger mom Tammy]

You have very nice looking Tiger Salamanders. :happy:

 

[RilWater]

Thank you Tiger Mom Tammy and that map was very helpful Seth! I have tried to find a decent identification chart or guide online, but nothing I have found showed enough examples of marking variations to really make an accurate comparison. I thought I would ask some of the pros on here and maybe get a consensus. Your input is greatly appreciated!!!

 

[josh z]

Hello sorry to intrude but I'm having difficulty using the post stuff but I NEED some info on what's happening to my tiger

 

[Chinadog]

Hello sorry to intrude but I'm having difficulty using the post stuff but I NEED some info on what's happening to my tiger

Welcome to the site. Posts in the advanced section are not visible until they are approved by a moderator. If you have a specific problem you can use the newt and salamander help section, your posts will be visible straight away there.

 

[sde]

I have tried to find a decent identification chart or guide online, but nothing I have found showed enough examples of marking variations to really make an accurate comparison.

It is tough with tigers, because their patterning can vary so much even within a subspecies. Without knowing where they were originally collected from i really can't say for 100% sure what subspecies they are, but these guys most certainly are A. mavortium, it is just whether they are A. m. mavortium or A. m. melanostictum. These guys however have a typical A. m. mavortium pattern which is why i think that is what they are. :happy: It is really hard to say with certainty though.

 

[RilWater]

Thank you again Seth You have been very helpful. Unfortunately I do not know where these guys originated from. Two were acquired from highly un-knowledgeable local pet stores as water dogs. The others were adopted second hand via a um... *cough*Craigslist!*cough**cough* In any case they did not come with detailed pedigrees.

 

[sde]

I understand. Most people don't know where theirs came from, it's fine that you don't