THEY DID IT AGAIN!!!!!!

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mary

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Ok, it's been a little under 5 weeks since my sexy female wooed her buff man and gave me 193 grandchildren! But now it's happened again!!!! I got home from work late last night to find my big new tank full of eggs!!!! Naughty little axi's!!!

There isn't many plants in their new tank - I was going to get some more next weekend - so she has layed heaps of eggs on the ground in the sand!!!! There is over 100 eggs so far and I havn't decided how many I'm going to keep - but if they keep breeding like this I could make a million dollars in no time!!!! I might be able to quit work and become an axolotl breeder!!!!

By the way all the babies are doing fine - I had one casualty - I droped a spoon on him when I was fishing them out to count and put in seperate containers - RIP Spoonie. they are so cute - they are all swimming around and having fun and getting bigger. Now they have some more brothers and sisters on the way!

Does anyone know if it is usual for axi's to breed this often? It's the same pair as before and it's only been less than 5 weeks??????
 
The eggs i have from the petshop have hatched..i only had 14 eggs and all 14 are out..theyre swimming around and stuff..what should i feed them? and any other things i should know about raising them? Also, will they eat mosquito larvae?


Daphnia is so small..i cant identify it..i have brine shrimp hatchlings..but the babys havent eaten them..is it because they arent ready?

thanks.



how did u get them to breed!! haha..mine have laid spermatophores twice..but no luck! any tips on getting them to breed? or let me rephrase that..getting the female to breed :D..should i isolate each male and female into pairs in tubs or something?

Let me know some tips, would be greatly appreciated.
thanks. Goodluck with the eggs...
 
Mary --

You should probably separate the female from the male for a bit so she doesn't get too worn out/stressed from laying all those eggs. There should be about a 3-4 month waiting period for females between laying. I think John Clare had a female die from overstress after repeated egg-laying.

Congrats on the eggs!

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CPR--

You should really listen to what everyone else is saying and relax a bit. You've only had your axies for about two weeks. Stress could be a reason why the males are laying spermatophores, (some amphibians lay eggs/deposit spermatophores after a period of change/high stress.) And your stressing about them isn't going to relax them at all. Plus, you've got quite a few axies as it is, so you should probably take some time to get used to just taking care of so many (I believe you have six adults,) before taking on another 150-200 more. Especially now since you apparently have over a dozen more larvae you don't know how to take care of.
 
well.i do know how to care for the larvae since ive got brine shrimp hatchlings prepared..just wanting to see what else i can feed them.

As for breeding, im just curious on how to tell wether or not a female is ready to breed or is producing eggs?
 
CPR, you dont even know what to feed your larvae, why are you trying to get more?

And is your tank even cycled yet? You just put 6 animals into one tank. Thats a SERIOUS stress on water quality. If you go adding eggs and more larvae to that mix, you're going to be in WAY over your head.

What do you plan on doing with the larvae? are you prepared to raise 100+ to adulthood?
 
Just because you've got brine shrimp prepared doesn't mean you know how to care for the larvae.

It's not rocket science to hatch some sea monkeys.
 
ive just tested my water quality, its perfect..its been up for 3 1/2 weeks.

So the water stress isnt a problem..i got the eggs from the petshop as id rather give them a chance then let the petshop throw them out..

Ive done what i could by preparing the brine shrimp, i also have daphnia now that i obtained from a petshop today.

I just what to know how i can tell when females are full of eggs!? thats it..ive thought about it and i dont intend to breed them as yet. Although i will try to breed them in near future.

thanks for help, and the great attitude dot.
 
CPR- I didn't do anything to get them to breed, just left them alone and they did it them selves. You need to relax! How old are your females? How big are they? Also what type of axis do you have, have you thought about the genes that you will be mixing? If you have the same weak gene in a male and a female, it might not be good to breed that particular pair.

I think that you should probably raise your new hatchlings till about 6 months old before you have any more. I think that if you can raise them sucessfully first, then you would be able to cope with alot more. But the more you have, the harder it gets, you need seperate tanks for each, and the water needs to be changed daily - or every second day at the most. So if you have 14 babies now, that equals 49 water changes a week if you change it every second day. Plus you should have an airstone in each tank or alternatively have just a few air stones that you swap from tank to tank every couple of hours so that all the tanks get airated. It takes alot of work - but it can be done. I'm doing it, but they need alot of looking after, way more than the adults. I spent alot of time as well as money to set up what I've got now and just remember that once you have them, you've got them untill you can sell them or give them away, and that could be 4 months, 6 months or it could be a year! Are you prepared for the comitment???

I know that it sounds nice to have all these little babies swimming around and seeing them grow......but don't get clucky!!!! It's like having kids, I just wanted one to start off with - but when I ended up with triplets, well I couldn't just give the others away or put them back - I had to step up and look after all 3.

I've decided that I can't look after all of mine so I'm going to leave all the new eggs in with the parents and if they eat them - well so be it, cause I don't have the means to raise more than what I've got. I don't want them to hatch then have them starve or eat eachother or get sick because I can't look after them properly.

As for food - how old are your babies, because they might not feed for the first day or 2 because they still might be feeding off of their yolk sacks.

What do you mean you can't identify it, Daphnia are bigger than brine shrimp. Where did you get your Daphnia from? I didn't think you could get them in Australia, I would be interested in getting them to feed to my little ones. Also how do you know that they arn't eating the brine shrimp?

What coulour are they your babies? Can you see little air bubbles in their tummies?

Where are you keeping the babies at the moment? Have you got 14 differt containers ready, so you can split them up when they are a week or 2 old?

Any way that's enough from me.
 
thanks Mary, at least your a friendly one :D and realises im just learning, learning is infinite..

The babies are now 3 days old. Theres some hatched brine shrimp in there, i havent seen them eat it yet..Daphnia was obtained from a new pet store near Penrith in Sydney. They gave me a cup full of it so its not going to be much for them.

No air bubbles are present, 4 of the babies are white and the rest have a browny shade to them.

I have 7 tanks now, bought them yesterday, theyre the 15cm or 20cm tanks, only small with the coloured lids blue red or green, im sure youve seen them.

Im planning to put 2 in each. If need will purchase another 7.

i have 2 main questions -

*Is it better to seperate the two i want to breed and put them in another tank or something?

*How will i know the females are full of eggs?

Thanks Mary, very appreciative of your help.
 
Also, is there another way i can talk to you p2p? like msn or something?

thanks.
 
CPR - Go into chat, and we can talk in there, if you want we can talk so that no one else can see our messages.
 
In a previous thread you said that you had 8 eggs - how did you end up with 14???
 
As for the "great attitude," you've posted in FIVE separate threads the same questions about breeding your axolotls and you've basically ignored anyone who tried telling you something you didn't want to hear, and THAT gets a little frustrating. In one thread, you asked about breeding axolotls before you even had one.

Then you went out and bought six adults and put them in a 55 gallon tank together. Presumably, the 3 and a half weeks between the axolotl-less thread and the thread in which you said you had six was spent cycling the tank, with a claim that there was no change in water quality whatsoever. Almost immediately after getting your six adults, you posted that you were attempting to breed them right away.

The way you sounded, it seemed as though you had no concern about the well-being of your animals, claiming that you wanted to "experience" them breeding. I'm not the only one who tried telling you to relax and wait before breeding or raising larvae, however, less than two weeks later, you went out and got 8-14 (depending on which thread you posted about them, there were two,) eggs, which you're now attempting to raise as well as six mature adults. That's 14-20 animals, presuming you're capable of raising the larvae.

It seems that you're getting in over your head with the number of animals you've acquired all at once. You don't seem to be receptive to anyone's feedback if it doesn't agree to what you want to do.

A lot of us researched our animals before we got them, but reading about something and actually having it are two completely different things. As much as you think you may know or have read about axolotls, everything is still going to be very foreign. Not everything that happens is going to be exactly like you've read about.

I understand you're trying to learn about these things, but at the same time, you're getting a little too anxious to get your axolotls to do something that clearly, they don't seem ready to do. Your animals are probably very uncomfortable at the moment, being in an unknown environment, especially if you're stressing even half as much with them as you are exhibiting on the board.
 
Sorry, I know that you think I am the nice one (and I am) but I would have to agree with Dot on this one!

Be patient!!! If you looking for some entertainment or somthing to do, well go back to school or get a job!!!! I takes alot of money to make a propper set up for 100+ baby axis, let alone effort!
 
as for the babies, i saw them at the petshop and they were going to be thrown out..so id rather give them a chance, theres only 14.

Sorry Dot, my ammonia etc are ok, as with my fish.

I also keep frogs etc, so 14-20 axys isnt too much. They arent all adults..

I keep lizards, frogs and snakes, also hermit crabs lol..theyve been living for a while now, with the successful breeding of bearded dragons..

Dot, sorry i seem so eager to breed axolotl, i just want you all to know that i LOVE animals and i would not do anything to lower their life expectancy or anything.

Thanks for the help.

By the way Mary, what other things were you supposed to tell me about the axolotl babies?
 
I have pet mice. I've bred them a few times. I know that this means that one day if I get a squirrel that since they're both rodents, I'll automatically know how to care for and breed them too. Also, I already have SO many mice to take care of, spreading my time to a whole bunch of squirrels won't make any difference at all!

I'm not trying to be nasty, but just to emphasise how your reasoning actually doesn't make sense at all.
 
yeah they are both rodents - but they are still different and the babies need different care. I'm sure you would be extreemly capable of taking care of any of your pets. But frogs are very very very differnt to axolotls - as you well know!

I'm sorry katy but i think that you have missinterpreted what dot and I were saying.
 
sorry i was trying to be sarcastic to illustrate your point, mary! i should've been clearer ;)
 
I agree w/ them, but I think that u all should esay up a bit. I was like this 2 years ago when I first thaought about getting axies.

But after mine bread, I learnedd something, Imagine that. Anyways it is very hard work and u need to be careful on what u do, because they are living creatures and they deserve to have a good home, and until u can support them I reckomend that u don't breed or even get anymore axies for the time being..

I'm currently raising my 3rd or is it 4th, anyways I still pick up new things and how to do it better. As they have said, many of us put many hours in to reaserch so we can be sucsessful. So give it a try before u make another big step..also i just realized how old this post is, but anywon reading this should take the advise that has been given..


~John
 
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