The New Girl

[david]

Pics of my latest addition. Hopefully soon I will be a proud Papa. (s. s. gallaica)

 

[l.]

Beautiful!

Those striped rocks are really neat. Do you know what kind of rock they are?

(I have all kinds of semi-precious tumbled rocks and things in my tanks...I have some agates in one that look a lot like these).

 

[jennifer]

She's a porker, quite lovely.

 

[ali]

S1ren, I have rocks similar to that which I got from walmart in a little mesh bag (fish section). They're pretty cool. My package even had a natural pinkish one with black stripes. They're pretty smooth too.

 

[john]

Is this the one from Bay Area Reptiles?

I was also interested but I guess you beat me
to it..Congratulations!!! Hope it all works out!
I would also be interested in some of the
offspring, if you are looking to part with any
down the road please keep me in mind..Thanks.

 

[david]

Yep, it's the one from Bay. A few weeks ago I picked up 5 bernardezi, 5 other galliaca (one of which is prego) and a few prego terrestris. The rocks are just called tiger stones, I picked up 40 pound of them from Petco, mostly for the baby strauchii tanks

 

[jeff]

Beautiful Gallaica Nash. I'll be looking forward to pictures of your terrestris and bernardezi as well.

 

[travis]

Any update here....has she spawned yet?

 

[andreas]

Hello David,
gratulations for these beautiful illegal,wild caught animals!

Regards
Andreas

 

[charles]

wild caught or not, she still look's Nice!

 

[david]

Not yet Travis, she still looks plump and willing, eating well too. And thanks for the congratulations Andreas. Since you're preaching, it's a good thing that when God created man, salamanders and newts, he had the common sense to create the initial captive born breeding stock for the old world hobbyist and wild caught stock for the new world. Courtesy of initial wild caught stock, there are many breeding colonies started across the U.S., giving hobbyist the option to obtain quality captive born animals and lowering the demand and value for wild caught animals. Soon there will be little demand for wild caught and less reason to remove them from the wild. Keep an eye on the prize and the big picture. Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because the hobby is younger in the new world that we don't take it seriously.

 

[andy]

LOL....well said!
And nice animal too....

 

[andreas]

Hello David,
the fact is that these animals in the EU stong protected, especially in the states, where they come from. Some dealers in the US make a lot of money with these protected animals and when keepers buy these animales you Know that the demand makes the offer.
What do you think, when in Europe protected animals from the US are offered? But I know that with enough money you can buy everthing in the USA...

Regards
Andreas

PS: Please excuse my bad English.

(Message edited by Lurchi on August 15, 2006)

 

[david]

Your English is actually alot better then my German Andreas. I was stationed in Germany (Ansbach)many years ago. What I think about protected animals from the U.S. being offered in Europe? I think that there are many serious keepers in Europe interested in breeding and keeping some of these animals and I appreciate their efforts. Europeans have mastered many breeding technics and their efforts with U.S species can probably teach us alot. With serious keepers, I'd like to think it goes beyond the money and their efforts do more to protect species then any laws and governments can. Look at animals like axolotls that don't even exist in any quantities in the wild. If it wasn't for serious keepers, I doubt they'd exist. If you want me to feel guilty, because I'm willing to invest money in breeding stock it's not working and that goes for the European keepers wanting to work with U.S. species as well. If the intention is to breed and study any species I think only good came come from it. So if you're a serious keeper, and you have some extra Euros you want to invest in developing a breeding group of a species from the U.S., I won't hold it against you. Better to have them in your hands then someone who won't know how to care for them or be willing to take the time to learn. And if you get lucky with the species, share the wealth with some of the European keepers. We have some very interesting species here in the U.S. too and I'm sure many could enjoy them.