Taking out newts to feed...

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Ive noticed on another forum that a few people take there newts out of their tanks to feed them, isnt this like really stressful and harmfull?

Do people hear do it with their newts and sals?
 
There are lots of folks out there doing lots of things I would never do or recommend to someone else. When I set up my 58 for the "boys" I put them in. That was three years ago and they have not left since. Before that they were in a 30 that was set-up for 15 years and moved six times. They will limb into my hand if I put it in the tank and I do handle them and feed them by hand occasionally but they are always in the tank.
 
In general, I wouldn't recommend it. However, it depends on the disposition of the sals in question. I've had excellent results with taking Triturus marmoratus juveniles out of their terrarium for feeding. They don't get stressed out, they just snarf down the food. The advantage of this is that I can keep them in a soil-based setup, but feed them with maggots and whole small worms, which would dig into the dirt and disappear if I put them in the terrarium. Fed like this, they grow incredibly fast.

I would say that if the animal is non-stressed enough to eat normally when moved, there's probably no harm in it. But most of them ARE too stressed to eat normally when moved.
 
I have to disagree a bit here. In my clinical set-up containers (shoe-box w/ damp paper towels), my regular routine is to chop up a nightcrawler, open the container, place the animal inside into a larger holding basin, start the animal feeding, clean and rinse the container and replace the towelling, and finally replace the animal into the container and move on to the next. I have maintained Tylototritons, Cynops, Ambystomids and Triturus in this manner for years without a single problem. That said, I would not try and make a habit of removing an animal from a clean container or naturalistic enclosure SOLELY for the purpose of feeding. I generally avoid handling my animals unless necessary to minimize stress. At times, an animal will refuse to eat when I'm cleaning, so I'll leave a worm piece in the container and check back to make sure it doesn't go bad. I DO wait until the animal has swallowed the worm until moving it again...Any unnecessary handling is never a good idea, but a bit as needed generally does little harm. Some species are more accepting of handling than others, so there are a lot of variables out there. Dane, the 3 species you list on your profile, I've kept in the past as well and they should have no problems eating outside of their tanks once they've become established. They're nice animals and easy to work with.
 
another related thought... I DO recommend hand (or forcep) feeding an animal, when/if they'll let you regardless of the enclosure type, as that allows you to more closely record feeding histories and responses. Again, species and food types come into play here, but for bigger adult species and bigger food items, I recommend it.
 
interesting thoughts, Ive always frowned when I read that someone pulls there newt out to feed it I supose sometimes its alright

Ill probably never do it with my sals though
 
Jen, in what temporary environment do you feed your T. marmoratus juveniles? It seems like a lot of work too, picking them from their enclusures every time, am I correct?
 
I just feed my newt in his regular tank, because he eats the extra worms off the bottom anyway.
 
Hi Coen, I use a bare plastic tub. I cover it with the lid (of course) and also with a towel, so they don't see me and are perhaps less afraid to eat. Yes, it's some trouble to pick up all of them one by one, but it's worth the trouble so that I can feed them high-growth foods: whole small worms or maggots.
 
Thanks for the reply Jen. I think I might use the same technique for some juveniles, as some of the maggots are indeed digging in the substrate and hatch as flies in the small tank, that was pretty weird when I first saw it...

P.s., really helpful that someone gave the comment "acting stupid" at my above comment. Maybe my english sounds a little weird because I'm dutch, but I was really interested.
 
Coen, don't take the comment to heart. Those of us who know better hold nothing against you. The person who gave it is in a lot of hot water anyway.
 
Interesting topic I missed. I sometimes take my tiger salamanders out of their terrarium to feed them so that they don't get their food "dirty" with soil fragments. I don't hold them while feeding (though they don't mind on the rare occasion that I do). I put them down on a table and pony up the goodies. There aren't many species that get tame enough to make that an option though. It's also a problem with tiger salamanders: the majority of captive tiger salamanders lose every last trace of fear of humans. As a result it would be very challenging to captive raise these guys for release back into the wild.
 
I used to take my Plethodon glutinosus out to feed so they wouldn't eat dirt and other fragments that stuck to their food and they ate readily.

 
What is that food item?
 
Interesting. Where did you get that from?
 
Recently cut logs had some here and there and my slimy sals took a liking to them and ate them readily. Their main diet was worms though but I fed these as treats.
 
Once I fed my axolotl a juicy green catterpiler which a found underground where worms should be..
 
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