Some thoughts...

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nate

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Hello all,

It's been increasingly frustrating for me to watch all these posts on the captive care of species complete with fantastic photos of courtship, larvae, etc. while many of them have no caresheet online. Obviously a great many of you have exceptional knowledge of particular species. Why keep this knowledge to yourself? Please share your knowledge and advice with the rest of the hobby with permanent records such as caresheets and photographs. When knowledge is pooled, we all prosper. If we truly want to see the hobby grow and prosper, it's imperative that the average person buying a new and exotic newt at the petstore be able to easily access complete care info.

Caudata.org's very own Caudate Central was made specifically for this purpose and is always looking for donated material. Also, If you have a relevant site that you've been working on, please note that John is willing to host your site for free. Let's keep this community growing.
 
I agree with Nate.

So many people talk about these species they're raising and sometimes breeding and there is no caresheet found on caudate central for it. Please, I know it's a little bit of work to write it down, but so many people would benefit. Share your knowledge!

Also, I heard Nate is starting up a Mafia or something and is going to start busting knees. Please don't hurt me! ;)
 
I do agree. I will do a care sheet for triturus boscai to start up. As soon as I finished I will contact John in order to help me since I have almost no idea on webs.
Best wishes
Yago
 
I'm doing one on TRITURUS ALPESTRIS
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It'll be finished in a couple of days,then I'll send it to the web site
Francesco
 
I suggest you to do it about t.alpestris apuanus or whatever subspecies you are rearing. I reckon that having caresheets not just about species but even subspecies will be much more interesting and will boost the adulthood of the hobby as well as the performance of the enthusiasts.
Best wishes
 
Thanks guys.

Francesco, a care sheet on T. alpestris would be fantastic. It's been needed for a long time.

Yago, are you planning on doing an actual web page for T. boscai? If so, then contact John. If you wish to write a caresheet for Caudate Central, just send it to nate@caudata.org or jmacke@caudata.org and we'll get it taken care of. John is only hosting Caudate Central, he does not deal with the day to day maintenance of it.

Cheers!
 
Ok, I will do so since my intention is just to write some caresheets.
Cheers
 
Yeah!
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Thank you Francesco and Yago! Caresheets for alpestris and boscai will be great for the site. Caudate Central is a "group effort" site, and it works well only if people are willing to help out.
 
Hi!
Yago-Care of T.Alpestris Apuanus,Alpestris,Cyreni and Inexpectatus is very similar(I don't know about the Iugoslavian and Greek subspecies).Anyhow I've already done the written part,now I've got to take some pictures.If anyone knows about differences in keeping the different subspecies let me know
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Francesco
 
Hi Francesco,
I'm currently keeping some alpestris apuanus ad I've got good pics, if you need them wrute me at leloa@hotmail.com and I'll send you them!
there are some differencese keeping apuanus and alpestris: the first subspecies is totally acquatic all-year-round and even the juveniles can stay in the water metamorhposing without going on land, while the nominate form is usually terrestrial during winter and summer, and the juveniles must get out of the water after metamorphosis!
bye
Leo
 
I got juveniles of t.a.apuanus, t.a.cyneri and t.a.alpestris. I keep the apuanus totally aquatic whereas the other subspecies terrestrial. Though, I reckon that t.a.cyneri can also be kept acquatic. Since, one day by an accident a few cms of water fall in the terrarium. And I found, by my surprise, some t.a.cyneri totally submerge and doing great. The next generation I will try to keep them totally aquatic.
If you need extra pics of any subspecies I could send you some. Even though all of them are just 1 year old they look pretty different.
Best wishes
 
My two cents: a care sheet on swordtails is overdue, much needed and would be very welcome!
 
I assume you mean Cynops ensicauda, right? I agree 100%. We just need someone who has kept and bred them, and has access to a few references. I know there are people on this forum that fit this description!

I also think there is a desperate need for caresheets on any of the Paramesotriton or Neurergus.
 
Yeah, I think the most needed caresheets are:

Triturus - boscai, helveticus, vulgaris, italicus, montandoni, alpestris, and vittatus

Taricha - torosa, rivularis

Cynops - ensicauda

Paramesotriton - all of them!

Neurergus - strauchii

Ambystoma - maculatum, laterale, jeffersonianum, and macrodactylum

Necturus - any

Pseudobranchus - axanthus

There are a lot of people who use these forums who are MORE than qualified to write them (you know who you are, hehe).
 
I'm enjoying this thread :)

Here's my three cents worth then.... top three:

Yes, Jennifer I do mean Cynops ensicauda. Much photographed, much talked about, but little detailed info. No caresheet available is s-o-o-h frustrating. We have two people here who could really do this justice.

Number two for me would be the Neurergus species. I know we (US / UK) lag behind the continental Europeans in terms of experience, price and (relatedly) availability but it would really speed up the process of making these fantastic animals better known if we could get the experts to codify their knowledge.

Third-up would be a (more detailed) record of people's expertise in keeping European land fire salamanders. I'm fed-up with general fire salamander sheets. You only get half the photos. Then my machine keeps giving me messages about not being able to cope with Japanese characters (when I do a detailed search). I don't want lots of care sheets about terrestris, with a few pictures of gallaica and bernadezi as an afterthought. I've got quite a few different species / sub-species now (!!!) and I'm hungry for detailed info on each - they deserve it! (But I don't want to be a pain in the rear to people whose help has been extensive and practical, but don't want to put pen to paper or finger to keyboard.)

Caleb... didn't know of this - big cheers - I get the feeling there is a lot of BHS-related material which would be of interest to caudate-lovers here. By the way, at the risk of going off-topic, isn't there a publication called The Natterjack?
 
Matt - the Natterjack is just the BHS' newsletter. Personally, I don't find it very interesting (sorry BHS) and I mainly only look at it for the advertisements.
 
Francesco, there's already a caresheet for Salamandra.

Matt, sounds like you need to take a few trips to the library and work out that frustration by making some individual Salamandra sheets
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Unfortunately, I've found that most "specialists" have no interest whatsoever in writing free internet care sheets. I guess they'd rather put their names in some of the pet magazines instead or not put their names on anything at all.
 
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