Some Questions On Cynops Orientalis!

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dean

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I bought a juvenile Cynops Orientalis. I have put him/her in a Terrarium Set-Up WIth a Water Dish about 3'' Diameter Sound ok?
The newt looks extremely healthy with very bright colours and is about 1.5" How old would the newt be about from metamorph? What should i feed it?

P.S Please Post Pictures and Information On Your Juvenile C. Orientalis And the Set-up You Use.
 
Thanks rob, but it doesn't answer any of my questions apart from the feeding but not food for juvies.
 
I think I would try a more aquatic setup, in which case traditional foods would be fine.

If it prefers terrestrial then you can try fruit flies, spring tails, chopped earthworm or even thawed frozen blood worms...like John showed with some other cynops species in a different post.

Take a look on CC...the articles will answer nearly everything you're asking.

As for size....you can't gauge ages off of sizes, as size depends on food availability, and young of the same age can vary greatly in sizes.

Article on Foods: http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/foods.shtml
Setup Ideas: http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/setups.shtml

I kept all of my juvies nearly terrestrial with a large piece of driftwood that broke most of the surface of the tank. The adults would be in the water 99% of the time, and the young stayed terrestrial until they were given away. I believe it is around 1 year usually though. Mine readily ate small crickets, springtails, fruit flies and blackworms (placed on the drift wood).
 
I have tried feeding it frozen brine shrimp i left a few dabs on the gravel and some mushed on the small bridge. I will post pictures of the setup? Thanks A lot For Food Recommendations Rob.
 
Dean, your best bet is chopped earthworms fed on a tweezers (or wiggling pieces left for him to find).
 
yeah but if i dig them up, what if they have diseases etc. Any way i can tell?
 
if you live in an area that doesnt use pesticides all over everything on a regular basis, you should be okay. diseased earth worms are pretty much dead earthworms. if you're terribly concerned, go to a bait shop. or a petshop.
 
I would dig them up in my grans garden she has healthy grass etc. think that would be safe?
i would only feed small worms.
 
Hi Dean,
Rather than just feeding small worms you can chop up big ones as well
 
I have just dug up 3 worms, and put them in a soil filled 0.5 gallon plastic tank to start a culture.
 
Yo Dean!
Lumbricus terrestris(nightcrawlers?) can't be cultured at home unless you have several meters deep boxes filled with soil. If anyone has succeeded let me know.

Dendrobaena veneta and eisenia foetida is ok to grow at home though.
Dendros(sometimes also eisenia) are usually sold as fish bait - start your colony by buying at least a mob(50-100? ehehe..). Eisenia are usually found in composts. Dendros and eisenia are redworms btw. All worms above go under the earthworm category.
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Put it this way they are british worms that i found in my grans garden!
 
Well, I would guess that your average british garden worm is a lumbricus terrestris. Just a guess though....
I would ask someone who is british ;)
I think Mike E should know
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Dean, the only kinds or earthworm you can "culture" are the red ones. They usually live in leaf litter and compost, not in dirt. Most likely, yours are not this kind. You can keep them alive in your "culture" tank, but they probably won't reproduce. I'd say just feed them to the newts!

Worms from Gran's garden should be safe to use, as long as Gran doesn't use pesticides on her yard. Good luck!
 
I will post a picture of these worms tommorow as i cant seem to get my flash on my digital camera to work
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I'd be surprised if anyone could ID earthworms for ya...its kind of difficult!

Yep Jen obviously agrees with me, go for dendros I say.

You most probably have lumbricus terrestris then.
Yumyum for newts! Nono for culturing!
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You may want to look at these:

1) http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/Amphibiary/frogfood2.html#10

2) From: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/index.htm
Identifying Earthworms: The best answer is 'don't bother to try'. Earthworm identification requires a low power microscope and mature specimens. If you haven't been put off yet then you will need a guide to help you - there are some 30 species. There are quite a few books available but only a couple worth reading. The best is R.W.Sims - 'Earthworms' published by the Linnean Society in the 1980s - unlike other authors Reg Sims is a genuine Oligochaetologist (though now retired) and knew what he was writing about. It is worth noting a little about earthworm habitats. Earthworms generally have 3 different lifestyles though the exact division is not precise:
Horizontally burrowing species that tend to stay underground, are usually unpigmented or gray in colour and cylindrical in cross section, they burrow through the soil feeding on plant matter. Surface browsers that have vertical burrows and emerge from their burrows at night and feed on leaves, the tail is often flattened and is used to anchor the animal so that it can retreat rapidly into its burrow if disturbed.. In autumn their burrows are often marked by leaves which they pull into their burrows. Litter dwellers are generally smaller species (and the young of some burrowing species) that live among leaf litter and the root mass of grass and plants and under stones.
 
I Fed My Newts Worms Today, The Cynops Didnt Like At All, But, The Paramestriton Sure Did!
 
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