Salamandra

[Viv]

Hi guys. I have even more questions! Would this tank work for any speciy of Salamandra? Provided I plant more plants and add some hides? The water is brown because there was a peice of wood in the water and it released tanins. Should I plant some more water plants? And if I could get some salamandra, how many? Thanks guys.

 

[Viv]

Weird, the third picture is the wrong way up. Oh well.

 

[Bellabelloo]

When I first start out researching for any future pet , especially at the moment salamanders , I look here :-

Caudata Culture Home Page

I then come back to the forum and use the search function in the green bar at the top of the page to research further. I read as many of the posts as possible, and to be honest, this is where I have learnt so much.

It has taken me time to select a species that will suit what I am able to provide. In my case tends to be temperatures and space ( my poor son has all my caudates in his bedroom ).

I really think you need to go about your quest in a different way. I appreciate you have worked hard on your little set up, but you need to find a species first. And then work to provide the best home and environment possible.

I am very much looking forward to seeing what you decide on.

 

[Greatwtehunter]

Honestly, Salamandra sp. don't need anything bigger than a water dish and even this is only required for breeding. Otherwise it is just overkill.

 

[Kaysie]

I'd be worried about the amount of heat that filter will put off. It can heat your water to a high enough temperature that it may not be possible for any caudate to live in it.

And your land area will trap a lot of waste, get water-logged, and create anaerobic conditions underneath it. For anything semi-aquatic, you'd be better going with floating plants or cork-bark.

 

[Azhael]

Definitely not ok for S.salamandra.
Julia is on the money, one needs to choose an adequate species first, THEN create an adequate environment for that particular species.

 

[eljorgo]

I couldn't agree more with Azhael. That set-up is totally NOT good for Salamandra sp. species. Salamandra salamandra require BIG, COOL, WOODLAND vivarium's with tiny amounts or no light at all. Substrate might be soft and more dry than wet. Should offer great amounts of spots to hide inside like cork bark, woodland fallen leaves, mosses, stone hides, subterranean hides etc.. Water? Not even see it!! Only If one wants to breed them, but that might be the last of your concerns for now. And thus, you will need to get a nice big set-up if you want to be breeding European fire salamanders. I hope you can from now on focus more into a specie and then make the appropriate set-up for it. Otherwise this wont be taking you anywhere.

Cheers,
Jorge

 

[Viv]

Didn't think salamandra would fit but I have seen some setups of people who have them and the have tons more water than my setup.

 

[Greatwtehunter]

I'd be worried about the amount of heat that filter will put off. It can heat your water to a high enough temperature that it may not be possible for any caudate to live in it.

That is one of the few filters that will add very little, if any, heat to the water. I currently use well over 30 of these filters and have never had them add more than 1 or 2 degrees to the water, even during the heat of the summer.

 

[Viv]

That filter is very good. I have had it for years and it doesn't break. As Justin said, it does not heat the water that much.

 

[Viv]

So I completly tore the tank down. I decided to make it aquatic. I was wondering if Triturus, Laotriton or Paramesotrtiton would work better in this tank. I was thinking Triturus marmoratus or Laortiton laoensis specifically. Also, if i had enough live plants, would a spong filter be enough to filter this tank? There is a turtle dock for the newts to come out on and rest. I'll have more pictures soon. Thanks

 

[Viv]

Doesn't anyone know if those species would in this tank. I have done research but I would like to know which one is more easy to take care of.

 

[Bellabelloo]

I think your substrate is too deep at present, it will trap all sorts of waste.
Triturus may then be a possible candidate.
But, as I have said before, you need to choose your pet first, then make its home suitable for all its needs.

 

[Jennewt]

Scratch Laotriton off the list, they aren't available in the US. Triturus and Paramesotriton would be OK in this tank, although it's a bit small for the larger species. For example, it would big enough for only one pair of crested newts, or just one or two warty newts.

The live plants you have in there are not true aquatics. They are likely to die off.

 

[Viv]

The emerald star is an aquatic plant, and pothos I have kept aquatic (I just can't kill that plant!), and the other one is a fake plastic one.

 

[Jennewt]

I think I see "aluminum plant" aka "watermelon plant".
Aluminum Plant
I'm not sure if that's the one you are calling emerald star. If it's aluminum plant, I be surprised if it did well submerged.

 

[Viv]

Wierd, the place where I got it kept it sumbmerged and it isn't showing any signs of whilting or anything. I was only thinking of getting a pair. I think I am going to get a 1.1 group of T. marmoratus. The turtle dock is kinda big so should I put like some moss and a hide on it?