Lugubris
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After perusing the build related threads of this site, I have noticed that quite a few people besides myself are building their own custom enclosures. I have also noticed that many people (including myself) have made mistakes that put their animals at risk, or made it so they had to redo something rather labor intensive. My hope is that this thread will become a sticky to help people quickly identify the materials they can use for creating and landscaping all sorts of enclosures.
Disclaimer: The following suggestions are compiled from this site and others and are, to the best of my knowledge, safe. I am not an expert, and can provide no guarantee that they will not harm your creatures. I will accept no responsibility for any harm that befalls them because you were too lazy to do your own research. Always use caution and common sense.
Safe wood (taken from Caudata Culture):
Note: always sterilize your wood by boiling it for >6 hours. Do not boil in pots or pans lined with teflon or other plastics. Do not use ANY woods that are not listed. Do not use driftwood from salt water or live wood. Do not use any wood that is inhabited, or destroy habitats on purpose (Illegal in some states and frowned upon amongst the community).
Safe in dry and wet setups:
100% Silicone Adhesive that is Food and/or Aquarium safe (Will state on product).
Food-Safe Epoxy Resin
Anything that explicitly says on the package that it is food or aquarium safe is probably fine.
NEVER USE SILICONE WITH MOLD, MILDEW OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF SPECIAL RESISTANCE!!! ALWAYS ALLOW PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE PRODUCT TO CURE (>24hrs, 48 is better)!!! IF IT STILL SMELLS LIKE VINEGAR OR CHEMICALS IT HAS NOT FINISHED CURING!!! ALWAYS WASH ADHESIVE AND SURROUNDING SURFACE AFTER IT HAS CURED!!! USE OTHER ADHESIVES AT YOUR OWN (OR RATHER YOUR PET'S) RISK!!!
--Even food/aquarium safe adhesives leach small amounts of chemicals (albeit FDA approved), so imagine how bad non food/aquarium safe products are with no FDA regulation. Equipment sharing could also leave trace amounts of unintended chemicals. It is worth spending a few extra dollars to ensure the safety and longevity of your animal. Even if they look okay you can't tell if they are suffering from long term chemical exposure that can shorten lifespan and compromise their immune system.
Safe Rocks:
Note: Boil rocks in a manner similar to wood if they are taken from outside (Careful handling them afterwards as they will stay hot for a long time). Never use rocks with sharp edges. Never use rocks small enough to be swallowed. Also, I accept no responsibility for scratches caused by rocks, nor injury caused by them.
Granite ONLY if it does not have pyrite (fool's gold), an iron ore.
Jadeite
Jasper ONLY if it is the solid red type
Obsidian
Onyx
Quartz
Slate
Rocks to avoid:
Crystals or Geodes if not otherwise listed (Many leach harmful minerals)
Dead coral (Environmentally unfriendly and impossible to remove salt)
Gypsum (Causes high pH issues)
Limestone (Causes high pH issues)
Marble (Causes high pH issues)
Pumice (Because it cant be boiled and it has sharp edges)
Sandstone (Because you can't really tell what is in it and it is very porous meaning it can trap chemicals and other pollutants)
--DO NOT USE ANY ROCKS WITH A METALLIC APPEARANCE AS THEY PROBABLY HAVE A HIGH MINERAL CONTENT!!!
--DO NOT USE ANY BRIGHT RED ROCKS AS THEY PROBABLY HAVE A HIGH IRON OR MERCURY CONTENT!!!
--Test for rocks: put vinegar on rock, if it fizzes do not use it! (Limestone is an example)
Safe Plastics:
Acrylic (If your tank is not glass it is probably this)
PLA (Decomposes eventually, a naturally derived plastic)
ABS (Used in Legos and most filters)
PVC (Reports on the safety of PVC are conflicting, since so many people use it it is possibly safe but I would not recommend it.)
Most plastics used in food containers are probably safe but reports/info about their use for this purpose is scarce.
Plastics to avoid:
Fiberglass
Anything that has gotten very hot, melted (including chemical melting), or been exposed to harsh chemicals.
Other Things to avoid:
--Caulking, chemicals, grease, varnishes ect...
--Clay (unless you have sealed it thoroughly)
--Metal of any type (in tank)
--Tape (in tank)
--Foam (unless you have sealed it thoroughly, most types are toxic and if not it can still chip, break, or decompose into harmful pieces)
--Dead moss sold in stores, it is often treated with copper salts which are poisonous.
--Bark sold in stores, it is often treated with pesticides.
--Sphagnum moss (Some causes low pH and all can cause a nasty disease called Sporotrichosis)
--Lichen, I have tested many types and they all seem to lower pH.
--Moss that you have not pH tested. (Crush it and make a tea from it to test, should be ~7 +/- 1 at most)
--Don't use wood from a hardware store for landscaping without sealing it, as it is frequently treated with chemicals and is of an unknown origin. Better to avoid completely in tank.
--Working extra late to finish early. Leads to mistakes that will slow you down in the end.
--Building around pets with flea medicine, as hair and dander with the pesticide can get into the project. (If it cant be avoided just make sure you rinse/wash really well when done)
Feel free to contribute any build experience/tips, materials (if you are SURE it is safe, I'm talking research or at least multiple testimonials, not personal experience/preference), or anything else you think will help those starting a build project.
Disclaimer: The following suggestions are compiled from this site and others and are, to the best of my knowledge, safe. I am not an expert, and can provide no guarantee that they will not harm your creatures. I will accept no responsibility for any harm that befalls them because you were too lazy to do your own research. Always use caution and common sense.
Safe wood (taken from Caudata Culture):
Note: always sterilize your wood by boiling it for >6 hours. Do not boil in pots or pans lined with teflon or other plastics. Do not use ANY woods that are not listed. Do not use driftwood from salt water or live wood. Do not use any wood that is inhabited, or destroy habitats on purpose (Illegal in some states and frowned upon amongst the community).
Safe in dry and wet setups:
- Ash, wood and bark
- Aspen, wood and bark
- Bamboo
- Cork Bark, soaked thoroughly
- Coconut, husk and shell
- Driftwood, sterilized
- Madrona, wood and bark
- Mopani, aquarium version only
- Resin composites made for aquarium use
- Bald cypress, bark
- Cactus skeleton
- Date Palm
- Fir, bark only
- Grape wood
- Maple, wood and bark
100% Silicone Adhesive that is Food and/or Aquarium safe (Will state on product).
Food-Safe Epoxy Resin
Anything that explicitly says on the package that it is food or aquarium safe is probably fine.
NEVER USE SILICONE WITH MOLD, MILDEW OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF SPECIAL RESISTANCE!!! ALWAYS ALLOW PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE PRODUCT TO CURE (>24hrs, 48 is better)!!! IF IT STILL SMELLS LIKE VINEGAR OR CHEMICALS IT HAS NOT FINISHED CURING!!! ALWAYS WASH ADHESIVE AND SURROUNDING SURFACE AFTER IT HAS CURED!!! USE OTHER ADHESIVES AT YOUR OWN (OR RATHER YOUR PET'S) RISK!!!
--Even food/aquarium safe adhesives leach small amounts of chemicals (albeit FDA approved), so imagine how bad non food/aquarium safe products are with no FDA regulation. Equipment sharing could also leave trace amounts of unintended chemicals. It is worth spending a few extra dollars to ensure the safety and longevity of your animal. Even if they look okay you can't tell if they are suffering from long term chemical exposure that can shorten lifespan and compromise their immune system.
Safe Rocks:
Note: Boil rocks in a manner similar to wood if they are taken from outside (Careful handling them afterwards as they will stay hot for a long time). Never use rocks with sharp edges. Never use rocks small enough to be swallowed. Also, I accept no responsibility for scratches caused by rocks, nor injury caused by them.
Granite ONLY if it does not have pyrite (fool's gold), an iron ore.
Jadeite
Jasper ONLY if it is the solid red type
Obsidian
Onyx
Quartz
Slate
Rocks to avoid:
Crystals or Geodes if not otherwise listed (Many leach harmful minerals)
Dead coral (Environmentally unfriendly and impossible to remove salt)
Gypsum (Causes high pH issues)
Limestone (Causes high pH issues)
Marble (Causes high pH issues)
Pumice (Because it cant be boiled and it has sharp edges)
Sandstone (Because you can't really tell what is in it and it is very porous meaning it can trap chemicals and other pollutants)
--DO NOT USE ANY ROCKS WITH A METALLIC APPEARANCE AS THEY PROBABLY HAVE A HIGH MINERAL CONTENT!!!
--DO NOT USE ANY BRIGHT RED ROCKS AS THEY PROBABLY HAVE A HIGH IRON OR MERCURY CONTENT!!!
--Test for rocks: put vinegar on rock, if it fizzes do not use it! (Limestone is an example)
Safe Plastics:
Acrylic (If your tank is not glass it is probably this)
PLA (Decomposes eventually, a naturally derived plastic)
ABS (Used in Legos and most filters)
PVC (Reports on the safety of PVC are conflicting, since so many people use it it is possibly safe but I would not recommend it.)
Most plastics used in food containers are probably safe but reports/info about their use for this purpose is scarce.
Plastics to avoid:
Fiberglass
Anything that has gotten very hot, melted (including chemical melting), or been exposed to harsh chemicals.
Other Things to avoid:
--Caulking, chemicals, grease, varnishes ect...
--Clay (unless you have sealed it thoroughly)
--Metal of any type (in tank)
--Tape (in tank)
--Foam (unless you have sealed it thoroughly, most types are toxic and if not it can still chip, break, or decompose into harmful pieces)
--Dead moss sold in stores, it is often treated with copper salts which are poisonous.
--Bark sold in stores, it is often treated with pesticides.
--Sphagnum moss (Some causes low pH and all can cause a nasty disease called Sporotrichosis)
--Lichen, I have tested many types and they all seem to lower pH.
--Moss that you have not pH tested. (Crush it and make a tea from it to test, should be ~7 +/- 1 at most)
--Don't use wood from a hardware store for landscaping without sealing it, as it is frequently treated with chemicals and is of an unknown origin. Better to avoid completely in tank.
--Working extra late to finish early. Leads to mistakes that will slow you down in the end.
--Building around pets with flea medicine, as hair and dander with the pesticide can get into the project. (If it cant be avoided just make sure you rinse/wash really well when done)
Feel free to contribute any build experience/tips, materials (if you are SURE it is safe, I'm talking research or at least multiple testimonials, not personal experience/preference), or anything else you think will help those starting a build project.