Newts..where are they?

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Does anyone keep palmate newts(L.helveticus)and have any luck in breeding in the United States?Just curious if they are ever offered in the US as I've never seen them for sale.Are newts not being sold as much from online shops or pet stores like they used to be 7 to 10 years ago?I don't see any Taricha species or JFB newts being sold anywhere..did the blue tailed Cynops take it's place?I used to see JFB newts sold at almost every aquatic pet store about 10 years ago.All I see now are H.orientalis and paddletail newts in pet stores.Just wondering where are all the newts?
 
Taricha have largely disappeared from the trade. Japanese Cynops, sometimes with locality,are still available, but the cheap bread and butter are now the northern Chinese species. The southern Chinese species are more scarce and higher priced. WC Cynops, Pachytriton , Paramesotriton, and Hypselotriton are all currently available. The newts found near Shanghai are cheapest, and generally pet stores care only about cost, not species.
 
Thanks for the reply,not what I wanted to hear but is that everywhere in the United States?I used to see Cynops pyrroghasters at just about every petstore in California and sometimes Tarichas,and even alpine newts.I thought the pet stores would want to expand the store not just sell FB toads and sometimes CFB newts and paddletails.Even petsmart sold JFB newts.Id rather buy CB from this site but I don't see any Cynops Pyrroghasters or Tarichas for sale here.
 
I too have noticed that newts have disappeared from the pet trade in the us. Honestly, I'm kinda glad about this. The best bet is to try and find someone on the website who breeds them. they will be healthier and more worth your money. Two of the three newts I bought from a pet store died less than a week after i bought them. Of course, now you have to wait for them to become available. unfortunately now is the time when they usually lay eggs, you'll have to wait a few more months until they become available. Michael Shrom almost always has something available. I bought some newts from him in the past. they were always healthy and in great shape.
 
Retail stores in Canada and the USA generally buy from local wholesalers, who in turn mostly buy from a handful of major wholesalers in the USA, so the trends are more or less continental. Much of the fish trade comes out of Shanghai, and the newt species which live around Shanghai are Pachytriton granulosus, Paramesotriton chinensis, and Hypselotriton chinensis, so these will be the cheapest available to the fish trade. Among the Pachytriton however, several other species do still get mixed in. H.orientalis can be obtained in the USA for a wholesale price of 39 CENTS. Japan is a much more affluent country, and Cynops from Japan are $2, $5 for specific localities. That's the wholesale price before it leaves Japan. Most pet stores are catering to customers who don't care what species they get, they just want a cheap newt with their fishes. Even the morespecialized stores really won't have a clue what variety of salamanders exist, how to tell them apart, or that there is even a market. They will buy the most common or popular terrestrial species when available, and the cheapest foreign newts when available. Japanese newts are still available, but they're magnitudes more expensive now than H.orientalis. The situation for Taricha is likely similar - first world country means much higher jobber cost, especially when they know that people will pay it. There have also likely been major cutbacks on how much of each species can be commercially harvested [if any] in a particular state, as protection increases and commercialization becomes increasingly regulated. Those jobbers who remain can often sell their stock within a very limited market area or online. When major distributors get stock, it sells out fast and may be scattered in small numbers across the continent or around the world.
 
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