Question: Newts & Red Cherry Shrimp???

[zoezakella]

Hi there,

Ok here is a question to all you newt experts if you could find the time to help me I would appreciate it

I used to own 2 x paddle tails which I sadly lost and currently own 3 axies, some goldfish and an apple snail but have just purchased the below tank which measures 33l x 30d x 37h cm & holds 40 litres and just under 10 gallons for the sole purpose of breeding some red cherry shrimp as partly pets / partly food for my axies (if I can bare to chuck them in lol) but was reading a thread by Azhael which seems he has been able to breed his shrimp and keep them with his newts which sounds perfect as I would love to have newts again but would also like to give the RCS breeding a go, so basically my questions are as follows...

Superfish Aqua 40 Fish Tank - Dabners Pet Shop

1) What are the most suitable newts to keep with RCS that wont hunt them all down before they have had a chance to breed (lol), I obviously dont mind them being eaten by the newts but maybe a slower newts might be better to give the RCS more of a chance of survival and to breed.

2) I would prefer a newt that prefers warmer waters as my tanks tend to sit between 21 - 23 in my house and would like this tank to be less maintenance in regards to keeping it cool (unlike my axie tank) :happy:

3) I have seen quite a few threads on Tylototriton Verrucosus and have falllen in love with them but from the care sheets I dont think this tank is big enough, maybe for one it might be but not sure if they like being on there own as might just keep those instead of the shrimp haven't decided yet BUT if the tank is too small then its a no as with my 4ft axie tank and large fish tank I only have room for this small tank (and trust me hubby was not delighted that I added yet another tank into our lounge lol) and HATE pets that are not kept in big enough tanks so would not want anything to be cramped!

Thanks in advance for any help or advice, these amphibians are kind of addictive heh

 

[Greatwtehunter]

Any of the Cynops sp. would work well, especially C. cyanurus.

 

[RobM]

I would say Cynops ensicauda would be the best choice, because I have read in several articles that 27C is the recommended temperature for RCS. Cynops ensicauda tends to be able to handle warmer temperatures than most other newts. So if you aimed for like 25C hopefully the RCS will still be breeding and the newts will be fairly comfortable too.

 

[zoezakella]

Many thanks to both of you (Rob & Justin) for taking the time to read and reply have read both fact sheets on the 2 and they seem great!!

Better start my search then

 

[Azhael]

C.pyrrhogaster is a good alternative, and i guarantee they are not expert shrimp hunters xDD They might get the odd one but they are definitely not built for catching fast prey. They will do fine at room temp year-round.

 

[zoezakella]

C.pyrrhogaster is a good alternative, and i guarantee they are not expert shrimp hunters xDD They might get the odd one but they are definitely not built for catching fast prey. They will do fine at room temp year-round.

LOL Azhael, presume these were the ones you were talking about in your thread :rofl:

All sound great and maybe these would be a good alternative as I say would like to breed the RCS but would also love some newts, so would 2 be ok in that size tank?? And also in the summer the tank will probably climb to 25/26 so that may be my only concern as from the care sheet I can see that may be questionable but it is also hard to estimate our summer as I did not have my axie tank last summer :happy:

Thanks for your help on this one!

 

[Bellabelloo]

Just out of curiosity, how many C.pyrrhogaster would you be able to house in a tank this size ? ( I have an empty version of this tank sitting on a shelf )

 

[Azhael]

In a 40l tank i´d keep a pair or a trio at most (given the right conditions). Females specially can get to a decent size, and a 40l tank offers limited space. Of course you could keep more than that, but personally i think it would be crowded. This species is rather active for a newt specially during breeding season when males go absolutely mental, so i´d err on the side of sufficient space. Since the tank we are talking about seems to have a reduced surface i´d keep two at most (if it was long rather than tall, it would be better).

 

[zoezakella]

Just out of curiosity, how many C.pyrrhogaster would you be able to house in a tank this size ? ( I have an empty version of this tank sitting on a shelf )

LOL Julia....... just out of curiosity heh :rofl: