Newt breeding

[keithp]

I've got two chinese fire bellies, the female was just put in same tank as the male I've had for years. Immedietly the male pappilae start protruding, he fans his tail, and follows the female everywhere. She is under a year old so why is he doing this?

I was curious if breeding will actually occur just being in the same tank. I'm not doing any special temps or setup I didn't actually want to breed just wanted two newts.

 

[Asevernnnn]

I dont to anything to induce breeding in H. orientalis, they just lay year round with no changes done what so ever, the morphs are a pain to raise, I want them to stop laying lol

 

[keithp]

I dont to anything to induce breeding in H. orientalis, they just lay year round with no changes done what so ever, the morphs are a pain to raise, I want them to stop laying lol

Oh no, that's not good! I don't have any place to raise larvae, my setup barely has laying areas either! I was told they were difficult to breed so I figured mixing two won't lead to anything.

I've got this huge macho male that is old and was WC, and the female is small and CB and has cool markings two orange spots on her face. The offspring would be interesting but Unfortunetly im no breeder and only have room for one tank...

 

[Asevernnnn]

Oh no, that's not good! I don't have any place to raise larvae, my setup barely has laying areas either! I was told they were difficult to breed so I figured mixing two won't lead to anything.

I've got this huge macho male that is old and was WC, and the female is small and CB and has cool markings two orange spots on her face. The offspring would be interesting but Unfortunetly im no breeder and only have room for one tank...

They are very easy to breed, theres not CB for sale often because wild caught ones are available so readily that its impossible to make profit off them and add that with difficult to raise morphs and tiny hatchlings.
I raise all the hatchlings in the parent tank until they morph so they can feed on micro-invertebrates that are often in an established tank. When they morph I start to raise them in shallow aquatic setups with java moss, just using small 2.5 gallon critter keepers that just slide under desks.
Could you get a picture of the one with 2 orange spots on its face? Its a possibility that they're a different specie entirely, if the spots are behind the eye area, its most likely H. cyanurus.

edit: ideally an adult H. orientalis or cyanurus tank should include a lot of plants, which would also provide laying areas.

 

[keithp]

They are very easy to breed, theres not CB for sale often because wild caught ones are available so readily that its impossible to make profit off them and add that with difficult to raise morphs and tiny hatchlings.
I raise all the hatchlings in the parent tank until they morph so they can feed on micro-invertebrates that are often in an established tank. When they morph I start to raise them in shallow aquatic setups with java moss, just using small 2.5 gallon critter keepers that just slide under desks.
Could you get a picture of the one with 2 orange spots on its face? Its a possibility that they're a different specie entirely, if the spots are behind the eye area, its most likely H. cyanurus.

edit: ideally an adult H. orientalis or cyanurus tank should include a lot of plants, which would also provide laying areas.

heres the photos

 

[Asevernnnn]

heres the photos

Alright, yeah those are definitely H. orientalis.

 

[Asevernnnn]

And they're fairly skinny, I would try feeding some worm or waxworms to fatten it up

 

[keithp]

And they're fairly skinny, I would try feeding some worm or waxworms to fatten it up

The photos are of the same newt not two. As you can see it does have special markings.

However if it's female it looks like I'm going to have to re home it which I dread as I've never mailed a live animal. I've actually been feeding live earthworms every other day and other food the photos are from two weeks ago, it's growing I got it starving and nearly dead but it recovered very quickly.

 

[Chinadog]

There's no reason to split them up because of breeding. When I get unwanted eggs I put them in the freezer for 48 hrs then throw them in the bin.
I can never bring myself to freeze them all though, not after the female went to gteat lengths to choose the exact right place and plant before carefully laying them That's just me being sentimental though.

 

[keithp]

There's no reason to split them up because of breeding. When I get unwanted eggs I put them in the freezer for 48 hrs then throw them in the bin.
I can never bring myself to freeze them all though, not after the female went to gteat lengths to choose the exact right place and plant before carefully laying them That's just me being sentimental though.

I still need to re home though 200 eggs x many years of life = too many babies I would feel bad killing eggs too so only solution is find someone who wants to breed and has the right space and setup.