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My terrarium project.. Will be housing couple of firebelly toads in the bottom and leaf frogs on the branches.
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First some planning & positioning of branches. Blue line represents future water level..




Terrarium will have land are made of styrofoam..




Cutting styrofoam to desired shape can be messy..




Styrofoam has been cut, notice "cave" for filter. Land area has a opening on top for maintenance of filter and pumps.




Branches on their final places, also background siliconed on place. Just waiting for final covering of land area with black silicone and gravel/coconut bark mix.


Finished terrarium should have a pump that lifts water to some sort of an automatic rain system. Probably just a piece of hose with couple holes drilled in :)


Any suggestions before I put everything together?
 
that is going to be an exceptional looking tank!

What type of "leaf frogs" are you putting in there??

Also, are you worried about the toxicity levels over time with the fire bellies and leaf frogs together?

great job!
 
gretchenellie said:
that is going to be an exceptional looking tank!

What type of "leaf frogs" are you putting in there??

Also, are you worried about the toxicity levels over time with the fire bellies and leaf frogs together?

great job!
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Sorry, I mean treefrogs.. Probably Hyla Cinerea. Forgot to check correct translation.

I dont think that there is much problem with toxicity levels.. After all treefrogs wont stay that much in water. And I will be doing water changes often. And I got this idea from another person who has kept these two species in same tank for some time without any problems.
 
TSN said:
Sorry, I mean treefrogs.. Probably Hyla Cinerea. Forgot to check correct translation.

I dont think that there is much problem with toxicity levels.. After all treefrogs wont stay that much in water. And I will be doing water changes often. And I got this idea from another person who has kept these two species in same tank for some time without any problems.
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You would be surprised how the toxins can easily be exchanged. The tree frogs will come to the water sooner or later and it only takes one time for the toads toxins to kill a tree frog. To say they will only stay in the branches is wrong. When hunting for crickets, they will gowhere the cricket goes. My advice, dont mix frogs with high toxicity levels. Pick one species to keep.
 
In adition, think about how B.orientalis males will amplex ANYTHING. There is a definite risk of drowning for the Hyla by the hands of excited male Bombina...
Add to that the possibility of patogen exchange, stress for coexisting, competition...
Not a good mix, really.
 
Azhael said:
In adition, think about how B.orientalis males will amplex ANYTHING. There is a definite risk of drowning for the Hyla by the hands of excited male Bombina...
Add to that the possibility of patogen exchange, stress for coexisting, competition...
Not a good mix, really.
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I'll still have to consider about what I'll put there. At this moment I have firebellies in separate aquaterrarium.

This one:
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Which definately is in need of cleaning up.. So I just might let firebellies stay there and just get treefrogs in new one.. Wouldnt need that deep water levels in new one either then.
 
The Bombina's current setup looks brilliant. I would do as you say, and kep them in there and put the treefrogs on their own in the new setup. That way, you will avoid any nasty consequences of mixing, and can also maintain each species under ideal conditions, and give their whole setups over tpo their needs.

Chris
 
I have your problem solved... send the toads and tank to me and you won't have to fix it! Great looking tanks! Chad
 
And here is finished one..

I did already notice some mold(or somekind white stuff) in background coco fiber panels.. Thought that it would be more resistant to it since they are being advertised as suitable for vivariums, which usually are high in humidity.

Will need to keep an eye on it and try to decrease humidity/increase ventilation.
Humidity at this moment is maybe too high at 80-90%. Temperature is suitable at 23-25 degrees celcius.
 

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That is one nice setup you have there.
 
in all honesty there should be no need for a water heater unless you live in an area that is generally colder.
 
MikeM said:
in all honesty there should be no need for a water heater unless you live in an area that is generally colder.
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Yep, I actually took that out already.. I originally had terrarium nearer to a window so I had heater in just in case it needed to be on for example at night, but moved terrarium now little bit so its not really necessary anymore.
Temperature drops to about 20-22 degrees at night, which i think is ok.
 
TSN said:
And here is finished one..

I did already notice some mold(or somekind white stuff) in background coco fiber panels.. Thought that it would be more resistant to it since they are being advertised as suitable for vivariums, which usually are high in humidity.
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Mold is normal in new tanks and will usually go away after a while and is harmless.
 
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