My Lotl has super tiny toes! Why??

[BabySinclair]

Hiya!



Soooo, I have a question. And prolly a dumb one at that....



I have five Lotls, all are 6-7 inches. The one that I am asking about is my Melanoid. He has really short legs, tiny toes and more webbing than his 4 other siblings. All of them have 1 or 2, Y shaped gill feathers. Is this because of inbreeding? :kiss: I understand that Lotls are all inbread to some degree. I'm just wondering if it's because of immediate inbreeding (bro/sis)



Oh yea,

He has never lost his feet, he arrived totally intact. He just has tiny webbed toes!



Thanks!

 

[tammyaxie]

cute wittle stubby toes

 

[auntiejude]

It's just the way he is. Some axies have long elegant toes, some don't, some have more webbing than others.

 

[Elise]

It may be short toes mutation:

Short toes is a recessive lethal mutation involving the kidneys, the Mullerian ducts and the limbs. It was first described by Humphrey (1967b) and has since been of interest especially to researchers who study limb development and regeneration (e.g., Mescher, 1993; Tsonis et al., 1993). Mutant animals can be readily identified by their short limbs and, especially, the reduced number of phalanges once front limb development is complete. Ascites, due to the incomplete development of the Mullerian ducts, becomes apparent only in the older juvenile. Homozygotes die of renal failure at about one year.

Further Reading: Mutant Genes

 

[BabySinclair]

Omg, that's horrible Elise!! I think his itty bitty toes are so adorable!! It can be anything that malicious
I have noticed his legs are half as long as his other 4 siblings as well.
I guess I'll find out soon enough. He's the only one out of five that is 5 inches long , while the others are six inches, with one guy being 7!!! But he's had short toes since he was a wee 1 1/2er . His legs seemed to have stopped growing, and he doesn't stand as tall when he is looking around. He kinda floats off his front feet so he can get a standing type stance going.
I noticed today that he Has a lighter colored velvety lookin spot on his side and a bit of fungus on his knee.
Everyone else is fine
I did a 50% weekly water change the day before yesterday
If I do another, I'm gonna crash my cycle

I just tested my aquarium, everything looks normal. My other tanks are testing correc with there normal parameters as well. So I Know the test kit it working.

40 gal breeder aquarium
Filter: sun sun canister filter meant for 100gal aquarium
Media: bio balls, scrubby sponges, carbon, fine/medium filter fibre
Ph/L-7.6 ph/H-7.4
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrates are at 5ppm

Btw, I tried to get a picture, but the red light on my camera scares him into a hide

 

[BabySinclair]

So at what point does drawfism start to show?
And if this is a case of drawfism. Isn't that horribly painful for them?? Having their organs all cramped up inside there?

Now I'm hoping his toes grow out. I don't want a dwarf

 

[BabySinclair]

I've been reading about this short toe mutation. I'm so scared for my little Stubbs. What's the best way to euthinize when he starts to retain water? I keep reading conflicting ways to do it. I just don't want her to suffer if it is the short toe mutation.
I'm mean common, look at her, she's an adorable princess!

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When asked: Why?
Because I couldn't stop at just one dammit!!!

 

[cabbysarus]

From what I've seen on here, Dwarf axolotls usually have a different body shape. More squished looking and usually rounder around the middle. She probably just has adorably tiny feet ^.^