Mixing Species

naturejoe

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I like to mix species. I have done it for years very successfully. There seem to be a number of people that think this a very bad idea and I value their opinion on this matter. They can and should continue to believe how they choose to believe. I do not appreciate when they express their opinion as fact and the only truly accepted way to keep animals.

I love these forums because it gives me access to literally thousands of different people with as many different experiences. There is a lot of information to be had. When I offer my two cents on a topic I am careful to say what has worked or not worked for me. That does not make it the right or wrong thing to do. I can only imagine how confusing it must be when a beginner comes to the sight for information and one person says this is "right" and the other person says it is "wrong". Who can you believe?

For all those interested in mixing species, I thought I would post some tips (not facts) on this topic.

1) The most important variable for me in keeping animals is to "pay attention." Really pay attention to the animals themselves. How do they look (healthy, bloated, listless, skinny, etc.), act (defensive, aggressive, relaxed, etc.), and interact (fearful, social, predatory, etc.)?

2) Make the habitat as large as possible to allow the animals to display "normal" actions, yet not too large as to make them invisible. This depends on the species involved.

3) Vary the environment to suit different animals. Ex. Some land, some water, some branches. Each animal can then choose their environment to suit them. By choosing animals that inhabitat each environment increases chances for success. Ex. Toad on land, fish in water, anole in branches.

4) Use animals you are familiar with and have kept successfully. Knowing where animals hide, what they eat and when they are active are very important. This information can then be used to choose the right cage mates. Ex. A nocturnal (night active) animal without a proper place to hide will be awakened by a diurnal (day active) animal leading to possible problems later.

5) House animals from similar environments together. Ex. An animal like a chameleon that likes a lot of humidity does poorly in a desert environment. Often times you can do some research and find a similar animal that will work in your chosen environment. Ex. There are desert chameleons that will do fine with your leopard gecko.

6) Be prepared to move an animal out if the roommates don't get along well. This often happens with animals of the same species as well. Ex. I keep some iguanas with my parrots and they get along well. However, I once had an iguana that liked to grab the parrots tails so he had to move out.

7) Keep your mind open to the possibilities of what you are watching. Some of the oddest friendships have been documented among animals. I am sure many of you have seen the story of the mouse, parakeet and corn snake that lived together. Remember to "pay attention" to what is happening as often as possible.

A successful mixed species habitat is very enjoyable and if done with some care and thought will bring hours of entertainment to you and your friends.

All your thoughts are more than welcome.
 
Hello naturejoe.

I would like to commend you on the way you addressed this topic. I am one of those against species mixing and did not feel threatened or angered by this post. So, thank you for tactfully introducing your ideas.

My personal bias agains species mixing stems from the numerous pet shop disasters I have witnessed and my personal campaign to educate against the wrong type of mixing. I agree that there are two ways to mix species (right and wrong) and believe that your tips listed here would be help to those who really wish to do it.

The goal of this site is to educate for the prosperity of all species and keepers of amphibians. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the community.

All those wishing to post futher: Please do not use this as a platform to attack and argue naturejoe. While I agree that harmony cannot exist without opposition, it is important to keep a level head and offer information that will help others. Please keep that in mind.
 
I'm really curious about the mouse, parakeet, and corn snake. Is there a link?
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There seem to be a number of people that think this a very bad idea

I get the feeling your referring to a post I made earlier this eve(if not, ignore me). Having re-read it it was very poorly worded, but that particular combo, in my experience is a nasty accident waiting to happen(not waiting for long, I might add). I was certainley not trying to suggest that species mixing is a bad idea, or that it doesnt work.

Quite the opposite infact, the vast majority of tanks I keep and have kept in the past had mixed species to some degree. I agree with almost everything you've said, with the exception of point 7.

Although it does work out sometimes, the majority of times it doesnt. Mixing radicaly different animals is risky, in my opinion trying to force it is irresponsible husbandry. Having said that a couple of years back I was house sitting for a friend, and took my dragon. She had a parrot and a kitten she was hand rearing. I think the kitten thought the dragon was its mother, my beardie liked having something warm and squishy to cuddle while I was busy and dragon and parrot coulnt quite figure out what to make of each other!

I'm gonna go back and edit that post, what with the nipple bars, kimono dragons and numerous innocuous typo's I'm really not doing very well today!
 
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