Mixing cynops...

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I see several articles on the negatives of mixing species. I understand the problems of this even though I have successfully acheived this. Is it possible to have Cynop Ensicauda popei, Cyanuras and Orientalis in the same tank. Of course I understand that they all should be of the same relative size. Would there be any problems in doing this?
 
Yes. C.ensicauda gets much larger as an adult, and they are bulkier and more aggressive. This would mean at the very least competition with the other two, smaller species, and potentially aggression. Also, depending on where you acquire your animals from, transmision of patogens/parasites would be a significant concern. Additionally, the three species could potentially interbreed (C.pyrrhogaster x H.orientalis is possible, which opens the possibility for all these three species to be viable).
Don´t forget that always, with any mixing, there are inevitably some risks. It´s certainly best to avoid them altogether.
When you say you have succesfully achieved mixing, which species are you talking about and how long a period?
 
Well, I had a 55 gallon semi aquatic tank with Chinese fire bellies newts, fire bellied toads, Africian clawed frogs with tetras for about three years until I had to move and break down the tank. They all lived peacefully and the tank was awesome to look at. I know that this site suggest agains this for a various of reasons though. I've had tanks for newts for years and I love to have at least some fish with them in the tank.
 
What you describe is a mixture of species from different areas and with different requirements (which you could never offer in a single communitary tank, so you were sacrificing somewhere). It might have looked to you like everything worked well, but i very seriously doubt everything did. For one thing, a three year old Xenopus laevis could eat the newt and the bettas without a problem...and they would definitely try. Apart from that, Xenopus are known to be asymptomatic carriers of quitrid, and frequency of infection in captive stock is rather high.
The other three species are also incompatible between themselves, but the main problem were the Xenopus.
Most caudates species actively inhabit only fishless water bodies, rejecting those that contain them. They can detect their pressence chemically even if they can´t see them. Depending on the species of fish that you force unto your newts, you can have serious trouble. Small, completely unaggressive species like white cloud minnows or guppies, can be ok in small numbers and as long as the newts have plenty of hiding possibilities, but that´s about it. Bettas are definitely not ok and will cause at a minimum, stress. This can drive the newts to abandon the water.

I know you said you´ve already heard about this kind of arguments from this site, and it´s your choice if you want to ignore them. This was mostly for other people who might be reading.
 
I appreciate all of the advice you gave, but I never have bettas in any of my tanks only tetra and the newts always had hides and planets to help water quality. I will consider some of the changes you suggested. Thanks
 
Oops, yeah, tetras, my bad. However, it´s still a bad mix since tetras are tropical fish that require conditions that are completely inadequate, and dangerous to the newts. And they can still cause stress to the newts by their mere chemical pressence.
 
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