Marbled and Dobrogicus?

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Could i house t. dobrogicus with marbled newts?
 
if dobros are anything like the similar cristatus they will attack anything that isnt them -even other triturus species-i learned this the hard way, they were aquatic at the time. its not only interspecies aggression you worry about -but how would you keep them from potentially interbreeding?
 
In addition, I want to remind, that Tr.marmoratus and Tr.cristatus are interbreeding to unfertile off-spring (so called Tr. blasii). This is seen in nature as they have sympatric areas.
For dobrogicus and marmoratus this may also be possible.
I would not mix species that close.

Uwe
 
<font color="ff0000">Moved to the appropriate topic by John. Please think about where you are posting before you post, Andrew.</font>
 
sorry about that, i was in a hurry. Anyway if i am careful not to interbreed them, is there any problem with them living together, at least temporarly? Will they be aggresive or anyhting towards eachother?
 
have you got these already? if you can afford the cost of these animals you should be able to afford separate tanks.-they will need more than a 10 gallon each anyways-depending on how many you have. if you want whats best for them then set them up 2 separate environments, for the time being you can keep them in separate critter keepers-or on a bed of moss/paper towles in plastic boxes with holes in them-providing you clean this box every day or two-(depending on how many you have in there)you can keep them in a set up like this for months..at least until you can get another tank set up.
 
I will take your guys advice, i have a 60 gallon tank and i think i will a buy a tank divider. It does not seal it apart but creates an impassible barrier that the newts cannot get under or over.
And they will be two semi-aquatic tanks with an overhanging land area on each with water underneath each.
 
The proteins of the toxins of both species are similar so... theoretically they could live together, but I agree what Mike says, you must be sure that don't exists risking of interbreeding . Surely is easier ( for you and the newts ) if you separate the both species in two tanks...
 
So will they hurt eachother or anything. And if i ever intend to breed them i could move them and if i see sighns or breeding i can seperate them. But will they hurt eachother or be harmful anyway to eachother?
 
ok i wont mix them then, im going to seperate them in two different tanks. Sorry for going on like that.
Andrew
 
you will learn as you get more into the hobby that mixing species, and even more, inbreeding species is highly frowned upon. when i first got into dart frogs, that was one thing that was mentioned many many times. its important to keep these bloodlines pure. with alot of these species, we are very limited with what we have in the hobby... in other words, rare in the hobby. that is why there is a high price on alot of species and that is why some people are very selective as to who they sell to so only serious hobbyists will considder. people just want to make sure these animals are going to fall into the hands of someone who will do it right and keep the bloodlines fresh and secure the future of these beautiful creatures. as advice to newbies, dont take any of this stuff personal. these people know what they are talking about, so their advice is probably the best. take care!

-josh
 
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