Question: Is she T. kweichowensis? And a mutation maybe?

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Okay, I have to admit, I did something impulsive today and bought my first amphibian, ever.
I used to manage the reptile department of a pet store, and we always kept firebelly toads, and some turtles in the store, but aside from the newts in the pond out back that I played with when I was a child, I've never even seen one face to face before. I went to the National Reptile Breeders Expo in Daytona Beach, Florida this weekend, and this morning I fell in love with a crazy little salamander. Actually, I guess she's really not even little.
I've been on here ever since I got home with her just trying to figure out what she even was. The guy who sold her to me told me he wasn't even sure what she was. He sexed her for me, and said he knew she was a female and a salamander of some sort, but couldn't even remember where he got her? I didn't like the sound of it, and she was being kept in one of those tiny tupperware bowls they use to transport arachnids and baby snakes and such. She barely even fit, and he offered to let me take her for $10, saying he didn't want to take her home not really knowing what she was, so I took her.
I had NO IDEA what she needed, other than a home, and he told me all she would need was a small critter keeper with some moss in it. Clearly, I was skeptical, but I got a large, sort of shallow critter keeper that's as much ventilation as solid plastic, a bag of moss, a generic fake rock hide house, and a water dish. As soon as I got her in there, she became active and curious, even coming right to my hand.
I've found answers here to most of the things I needed to know immediately, namely what i think she most likely is. She most resembles the pictures I've seen of T. kweichowensis, so I assume that's what she is. I'm attaching a picture, so if I'm wrong on that, please let me know.
One weird thing about her though, her front right foot has at least seven, likely eight separate toes. I haven't noticed anything about this on here, so I was just wondering if anyone thought I need to worry about this little oddity?
 

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This is the same thing which has been widespread as imports over the last several years and is likely not T.kweichowensis, but possibly an undescribed species.

I would suspect the unusual number of toes is a consequence of imperfect healing. When developing tissues are damaged in amphibians, it is a common response that the tissues start to regenerate the same parts they were growing in the first place - often too many of them. Damage the developing toe so that there are three nubs left of it, and each nub may resume growth of an entire toe all by itself. It looks odd, but shouldn't be a concern. It's highly unlikely to be a mutation [which is an inherited genetic anomaly].
 
Thank you. At least now I can account for the crazy foot. I actually find it endearing, just wanted to make sure she was okay.
It's taken a few hours of trial and error, but she seems happy enough with her temporary set up, and I feel satisfied with it for now. I plan on moving her into a 20gal.tank in two weeks when I get paid and can move my ball python into a 40gal. I know some animals get aggressive and generally cranky when you give them too much of their own space. Do I need to worry about this with her? It's not that think she can hurt me, but she's currently so pleasant, and I don't want to ruin it.
 
So, I'm starting to get nervous. I don't expect her to automatically adjust to being in her new home, but she literally has not moved one inch since i put her in there Sunday.
How long is it normal for this to last?
 
Caudates, specially when they are terrestrial are not very active. The usual is for them to find a hide they like and stay there throughout the day. They generally only come out at night specially if humidity is high.
 
Okay, well that makes me feel better. I've been sitting a couple of ice cubes atop her little home at night before i go to work, so that she can stay cooler. She seems to be having trouble catching the crickets i've given her, so i guess on my way home tomorrow, I'll stop somewhere and pick up some worms and give that a try.
 
That is the same as mine. The subspecies Tylototriton cf kweichowensis.
 

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