ID needed for two newts

[roguemako]

I was told that the larger one was Paramesotriton hongkongensis and the smaller/slimmer one was a Paramesotriton chinensi. Just wanted to double check.

Thanks!

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[Jennewt]

I don't think it's possible to tell from this. The larger one is too bumpy to be P. hongkongensis, but I wouldn't venture any guesses beyond that.

 

[roguemako]

What would you need to see to help make an ID, the bottoms too? Close up of each of their faces?

 

[roguemako]

No one had any idea?