I may be in over my head

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I recently inherited a pair of axolotls in fairly poor condition. I have been slowly trying to rehab them, but things have taken a turn and I'm not really sure where to go from here.

Backstory:
The two lotls are of indeterminate age (possibly around 5 years old?). They used to be housed with cichlids who bit off their gills, so unfortunately they have very little remaining and I don't know how this affects their health. They are currently housed together in a 40gal breeder with a canister filter. Over the last month-ish, I've been trying to set up a new tank (30gal) with the intent of splitting them up and giving them each a little more wiggle room. The new tank is still a work in progress and hasn't been properly cycled.

The Turn:
Two nights ago, the smaller axolotl began floating. He made many attempts to return to the bottom, but could do no better than float with just his toes touching the substrate. He seemed very disoriented and stressed. The other lotl was not floating but was similarly disoriented. I've read that floating is commonly caused by constipation/gastro issues and that the best treatment is fridging, so I prepared the fridge and both lotls using this guide. Then I tested the water and learned the nitrate levels were off the charts and KH was at a solid 0. I used testing strips, which I have since learned are not very reliable.

My plan is to empty the tank entirely and start over. I have taken apart the canister filter and tubes and have thoroughly rinsed them and replaced the filter media, but that filter isn't going back in that tank (I'm moving it to the smaller one and have a new one for the 40gal). However, I am very scared about how long it will take a completely fresh tank to cycle and therefore how long the lotls will be stuck in the fridge. I know they can be in there for a couple of weeks if necessary but they're already in such poor condition that I worry prolonged fridging will be too much for them. Is there anything else I should be doing?
 
I recently inherited a pair of axolotls in fairly poor condition. I have been slowly trying to rehab them, but things have taken a turn and I'm not really sure where to go from here.

Backstory:
The two lotls are of indeterminate age (possibly around 5 years old?). They used to be housed with cichlids who bit off their gills, so unfortunately they have very little remaining and I don't know how this affects their health. They are currently housed together in a 40gal breeder with a canister filter. Over the last month-ish, I've been trying to set up a new tank (30gal) with the intent of splitting them up and giving them each a little more wiggle room. The new tank is still a work in progress and hasn't been properly cycled.

The Turn:
Two nights ago, the smaller axolotl began floating. He made many attempts to return to the bottom, but could do no better than float with just his toes touching the substrate. He seemed very disoriented and stressed. The other lotl was not floating but was similarly disoriented. I've read that floating is commonly caused by constipation/gastro issues and that the best treatment is fridging, so I prepared the fridge and both lotls using this guide. Then I tested the water and learned the nitrate levels were off the charts and KH was at a solid 0. I used testing strips, which I have since learned are not very reliable.

My plan is to empty the tank entirely and start over. I have taken apart the canister filter and tubes and have thoroughly rinsed them and replaced the filter media, but that filter isn't going back in that tank (I'm moving it to the smaller one and have a new one for the 40gal). However, I am very scared about how long it will take a completely fresh tank to cycle and therefore how long the lotls will be stuck in the fridge. I know they can be in there for a couple of weeks if necessary but they're already in such poor condition that I worry prolonged fridging will be too much for them. Is there anything else I should be doing?
never never never take apart your filter and scrub everything out. Your nitrates being high just means you need to do some water changes, not completely strip your tank of good bacteria. You're not the only one who's done this, as it does seem to be the knee jerk reaction to less than ideal water parameters, but by emptying the tank and scrubbing the filter, you just make the tank less safe than it was before. If you have nitrates, that means you have good nitrifying bacteria colonies. That is essential is keeping your aquarium stable. If you get a high reading on any of your tests, just do a simple water change. If your chemicals are in the "danger range", temporarily tub your axolotls (dont fridge them), and do several partial water changes. 30% every day for 3 days is usually enough to bring them back down. If not, then do a couple more days of it. Once they back in safe range, your axolotls can go back in.

To clean your canister filter, you can rinse your filter pads and such in dirty tank water from doing a water change, but it should never be rinsed under tap water. You should also change out carbon about once a month. You should also clean the tubing now and then to prevent them from getting clogged with gunk, but other than that, your filter should be left alone. Adding a sponge filter to your tank can also assist in adding more surface area for good bacteria to grow.

Floating can be in indicator of a few things. More often than not, they just need to poop. Other times, its water quality or temperature related. Internal parasites and bacterial infections can also cause floating, but I doubt that is the case here.
 
I haven't emptied the tank yet, so I think the good bacteria is still salvageable if I do the partial water changes like you say. Since I've already fridged the lotls, should I leave them in there or is it safe to take them out and tub them instead? I don't want to cause them more stress than I already have.
 
I haven't emptied the tank yet, so I think the good bacteria is still salvageable if I do the partial water changes like you say. Since I've already fridged the lotls, should I leave them in there or is it safe to take them out and tub them instead? I don't want to cause them more stress than I already have.
Unfortunately, 95% of your bacteria is in your filter. You;re going to have to monitor your parameters very closely as those colonies rebuild.

In the meantime, you are fine to take them out of the fridge. Just let them warm up slowly in a cool, dark place.
 
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