How rare is the eyeless axolotl , we have one :)

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How rare is an axolotl with no eyes ? We had one born about 2 months ago and hes still doing great and finding food on his own ! Pics to come.
 
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Most of those are from people not registered on the forum.

And hey, maybe those of us that have seen it just don't have an answer for you? Sheesh. I personally have no idea how rare eyeless Axolotls are as I've never bred axies and don't have a point of reference. But apparently it is a mutation that happens sometimes as I've heard of others being eyeless before.
 
I don't think it was supposed to be a rude comment Kaini :)

I have never heard of eyeless axolotls, but the first thing it made me think of was an olm, maybe you should name him olm? I don't know, just a suggestion :wacko: I think that as long as its living fine and is happy that this is very very neat! I cant wait to see what he'll look like when he's grown.
I wonder if breeding will be possible? How does he find his food? I would love to see a video :)

Keep us updated! :D -Seth
 
He/she is so cute I wonder if its the same as most species including ourselves - one sense goes and another gets stronger? as this little one has no eyes I wonder if hes got better smell? Hmmm o.o

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They are not real common. Most people take them out of the gene pool by not breeding them.
 
sde said:
I don't think it was supposed to be a rude comment Kaini :)

I have never heard of eyeless axolotls, but the first thing it made me think of was an olm, maybe you should name him olm? I don't know, just a suggestion :wacko: I think that as long as its living fine and is happy that this is very very neat! I cant wait to see what he'll look like when he's grown.
I wonder if breeding will be possible? How does he find his food? I would love to see a video :)

Keep us updated! :D -Seth
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Thanks ! I will do my best to get a good video at feeding time tonight. Hes sognificantly zmaller than the others but at this point , after living 60 days already i think hes going to make it. His brothers and sisters have moved on to frozen bloodworms, while his diet is still mainly bbs. I use a flashlight to shine on him, so that the bbs swarm him, then he feels them swimming all around his face and snap ! He gulps them up. He has tried bloodworms but we need to make them touch his face for him to notice them. He will need to be hand fed for life. As far as breeding i believe someone else said on another thread eyeless axies are sterile ? No idea about that !
 
smiley1996 said:
He/she is so cute I wonder if its the same as most species including ourselves - one sense goes and another gets stronger? as this little one has no eyes I wonder if hes got better smell? Hmmm o.o

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Most likely? We really are trying to rehome all the babies asap but i think we are keeping eyeless!
 
Awww yh he/she is special :D

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RupertxGiles said:
As far as breeding i believe someone else said on another thread eyeless axies are sterile ? No idea about that !
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Eyeless axies are indeed sterile, so no worries about breeding.
However I would keep this one separated, he may become injured or inadertantly injure other axies.
But it would be very interesting to note his progress - I have a deformed axie that I am watching to see how she develops and copes with her weird shape.
Please keep us updated.
 
auntiejude said:
Eyeless axies are indeed sterile, so no worries about breeding.
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But it might be cause for concern about breeding with its parents. If eyelessness were to appear repeteadly in that pair´s breedings it could point to a heritable basis.
 
auntiejude said:
Eyeless axies are indeed sterile, so no worries about breeding.
However I would keep this one separated, he may become injured or inadertantly injure other axies.
But it would be very interesting to note his progress - I have a deformed axie that I am watching to see how she develops and copes with her weird shape.
Please keep us updated.
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I agree, he has been separate so far...and probably wil be
 
Azhael said:
But it might be cause for concern about breeding with its parents. If eyelessness were to appear repeteadly in that pair´s breedings it could point to a heritable basis.
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Yes its very strange, we have bred many times and produced thousands of eggs and this is the first eyeless ! A few deformed ones as well that didnt make it ...one did and he has a twisted tail but hes thriving. We have recently separated all our adult males from the adult females , we are currently raising over 100 babies that need homes.
 
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RupertxGiles said:
. He will need to be hand fed for life.
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I quite like your idea of concentrating the bbs with a torch around its face, it will certainly help its growth rate if not its survival. When its on bigger food items it shouldnt be necessary to hand feed, axolotls can feed in the dark so this guy should be ok if you drop worms on its head.
 
xxianxx said:
I quite like your idea of concentrating the bbs with a torch around its face, it will certainly help its growth rate if not its survival. When its on bigger food items it shouldnt be necessary to hand feed, axolotls can feed in the dark so this guy should be ok if you drop worms on its head.
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Thanks ! That is a good point.
 
My axolotl who has two functioning eyes can't even find food that I drop on its head, so it looks like you have a very cool looking survivor. Is the whole head smooth or does it have indents where the eyes would be, like is it only missing eyeballs or does it not have sockets as well? Not to be morbid, but I would be curious to see what it's skull looked like.
 
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