Question: Houston, we have touchdown! FBN on land!

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Newty, the C. Orientalis that brought me to this site, has emerged from the water. I was home for lunch, and as my trusted new friends here predicted (Azhael), the shedding was the final stage of metamorphosis and is continuing. Anyway, I checked on him as usual and there he was, on the turtle dock under a little piece of fake plant I put there. I moved the whole dock into a terrestrial 16 Gal container filled w/ the brick-type substrate of coco fiber/Eco Earth type of thing I use for my tree frog. Anyway, I didn't have the full 1/2 hour to allow the material the expand, but it seemed close. I put a shallow dish in it and will buy a real one today. We went Monday to the store and I didn't like the choices but will go to a different store today.

I plopped some white worms down by him still on the turtle dock and checked him moments later. He had moved into the substrate. Now, I feel like it's too large a container and I should downsize though I know more morphs are on the way. I don't want to lose him in there - it's a lot of area about an inch deep and while he seemed so large in the water, now looks so tiny and fragile. He didn't seem interested in the worms. Is this common after just emerging? Do you think the tank is too large or deep?

Please help - I don't want to mess this up now!

Thanks,
Dana
 
WOO HOO! CONGRATS!

Mine actually stayed very close to water the first day or so. All of them took extended swims for the first few days, some even to continue feeding underwater.

I am using the tilted tank method as described on Caudata Culture after a close call with #2 and a mouth full of coconut substrate.
Haven't witnessed any terrestrial feeding yet myself...which worries me a bit.
 
I think it´s best to keep them in small containers. I´ve even seen them being housed individually in Chinese food containers xD. In a small tank the food is more concentrated and since these juveniles are clumsy, it makes things easier.
Don´t worry if it doesn´t eat the first week. It might eat sooner of course so keep trying, but metamorphosis is such an exausting process the poor thing may not have room in his little brian for food for a few days. Be patient, and keep trying, once it starts eating you´re pretty safe.

By the way, i´m glad to hear i was of help, i love this species and i love to see other people breeding them :)
 
Guys, you've both been TREMENDOUSLY helpful and patient - thank you!

OK, I'm fairly freaked out about the next hours until I get home but will move to the tilted tank set-up w/ a lid (holes drilled, of course) when I get back. I pray nothing happens to Newty til then!

I will use a wet paper towel and put some hides in there.

Thank you,
Dana
 
Congrats! Dana do you have springtails? I would wait a day or two longer and then introduce springs. Also I would start working on FF. They take a little practice to get right but in the end are very easy once you get the hang of it.
 
Thanks, Rick. I have to tell you that I had one dream after another last night of awful things happening to "Newty" and some Emperor Newts (of which I have none!)

I don't have springtails - just white and blackworms, frozen bloodworms, frozen baby brine shrimp and another frozen mixture. I'm really a wreck over this metamorphosis and getting him to eat. I suppose when #45 emerges from the water, this will be old hat, but it's new, exciting and alarming at the same time!

Any hatchlings yet for you? Do you think I should buy the FF or springtails or waxworms? Are any available at Petco?

Thanks,
Dana
 
wax worms are fattening and appetizing to newtlets.Last year my juvenile loved them







hope everything goes well:happy:


chris:wacko:
 
I really recomend the waxworms. You can´t abuse them or use them as a staple because they are fatty and not nutritionally complete, but they are great for fattening up the tiny morphs, and even the pickiest of all newts is bound to at least check out the juicy, tempting worm. When all other foods are ignored, waxworms are still taken with agressive impatience....at least that´s my experience.
 
I wouldn't be very worried at this point- sometimes it takes new morphs a few days before they decide to start eating again. The others have all given great advice on what should be offered.

Good Luck!

P.s.- Is there a possibility of some photos?
 
Nathan050793 said:
P.s.- Is there a possibility of some photos?
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Oh my dear friend, I've been taking daily photos of some of these since the egg was laid - figure it could be a great science experiment/paper for my sons when they get older, but I'm so technologically impaired, that I might figure out how to post them by the turn of the next century! I have great pics stored on the computer...just need someone to come show me how to find them! Seriously, I will try to post soon!

I am photographing two eggs from day 1 through morphing if all goes well. I also have some larvae hatching that I'd love to divide into two tanks so there's a differential (ie: one tank gets more light, or only white worms) and see if comparisons can be made, but I'm really too obsessed with helping things thrive to actually do something that could be detrimental!

I've got springtails, fruit flies, and waxworms on the way, so I'll hopefully find something they'll like.

Dana
 
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I had that problem a while a go:D.Just get an account on photo bucket,buy a card reader and a usb connection cable,put the memory card of your camera into the card reader,insert the cable into the card reader,insert the other end of the cable into the usp port of your computer,select "upload pictures" on the photo bucket page,choose the pictures you want,when they have loaded press the img link( i think it is img :p) then right click onto your post and select paste and then we should be able to see the pictures.Sorry it might be a bit complicated I just couldn't describe it any easier:eek:.I would love to see what your morphs look like:happy:



Chris:wacko:
 
Thanks, guys. I will jump on this as both of your posts are very helpful, but I'm a little stressed for time for the next 13 years - kidding, my youngest is 5! I'm going to devote a morning to this when I'm not working and the boys are doing a camp or otherwise occupied! My "Hedgehog Forum" wants pics, too. I managed to get those pics on my computer and can retrieve them, but when I try to just post one of them, it says it's too large a file? Maybe I'll have more luck here...I know what you mean, I love to see the pics, too. I'm still snapping away at the latest egg as it progresses, the newtlets, the newtpoles...figure the boys will have one heck of a data base of information for future reference, school or just in their conservation efforts.

Thanks again,
Dana
 
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