Help finding supplier of newts to petsmart

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I was told that the supplier of newts for the southeastern PetsMart stores is located in Florida and called "ceegrum" (sp?). I'm hoping like hell that he doesn't mean the liquor company. If anyone has any information on who this supplier is and how I might find them, please let me know. I'm trying to trace the origins of my newt to find out what's wrong with it and how I might get it to eat.
 
Finding the wholesaler or manufacturer makes sense for other kinds of merchandise (furniture, appliances, etc.) but probably does not make sense for live animals. I suspect that most wholesalers and importers are just as clueless about newt care as Petsmart is. They want to make money - they care about keeping the majority alive and reselling them quickly, not about their long-term health.

Here is something I used to have posted on my now-defunct website. Maybe this will help you understand the situation you inadvertantly got into. It isn't your fault, but neither Petstupid nor the wholesaler is going to help you.

The Pet Shop Firebelly Newt Tragedy
When you see firebelly newts in a pet store, think about where they came from. The most common firebelly newts, Cynops orientalis, are imported from China. All are wild-caught. To get here they had to travel thousands of miles, most likely with very poor conditions along the way. Stress and overcrowding during shipment help spread disease. The ones that survive this ordeal land in a pet store where they may be thrown into an overcrowded tank with poor water quality and incompatible species (frogs, waterdogs, crabs, or other newt species). To make matters worse, most pet stores know nothing about the specific needs of newts, so their care is likely to continue to be poor in every possible way. They are likely to be fed only packaged newt pellets, which many of them do not recognize as food, and so they slowly begin to starve. Since newts can last a long time between meals, and develop diseases slowly, they may continue to "look OK" for quite a while.

Then, along comes a shopper who thinks this looks like a cute pet. They take it home with only the advice of the pet shop employees. The buyer gets a sick stressed newt that hasn’t had a good meal or decent water since it left China. To make matters worse, the buyer usually gets poor advice on how to care for it. The new pet owner is surprised to find that their cute pet refuses to go in the water, and refuses to eat newt pellets. The newt is often put at an unsuitably warm temperature, because the buyer doesn’t know otherwise. Sooner or later, sickness sets in.

Is it any wonder that many (perhaps most) people who buy these newts find them dead within a few weeks or few months?

Here is what you can do to avoid becoming part of this tragedy. If you buy pet shop newts, be sure you know how to take care of them before you bring them home. Buy captive bred newts or salamanders from a breeder. Don’t expect the pet shop to tell you what you need to know. Buy some books about newts and read everything you can.
 
Its probably seagrest farms
they are huge fish wholesaler in florida...they fish are famous for being ill and i think they buy from people who still use poison traps for fish.
but petsmarts do buy from local breeders....yo'd be surprised how local a petsmart animal can be
and they do have the number you can call.
here in phoenix (where petsmart headquarters is located) when there is a problem i have called about i have found it to be rectified pretty quickly.
But it never hurts to go in and suggest cooler temps and live food sources for their newts (or to make other suggestions about their other suffering animals)
Calling seagrest probably won't get you anywhere.
good luck.
 
Thanks to both of you for your suggestions. I contacted Florida Fish and Wildlife Services again to see if they have the information re: Seagrest Farms. I live close enough to Florida so that I could concievably go to the importer and see for myself the conditions that they're keeping the newts in. My newt has already died, but I hope to do something for the sake of other newts sucked into this chain of torture known as wholesale. If nothing else, maybe sort of a photo journalistic piece of what they go through and the conditions they're forced to be living in would get some people to boycott the purchase of newts in big chain petstores like Petsmart. Hell, if I can find scientific proof of their needs as opposed to just the hands-on advice of hobbyists (though I think that could be just as relevant), and ensure that Petsmart is aware of what the animals require and yet still do not provide the needed environment, then they can probably be sued. I'm a biology major and I'm speaking with my prof. as to what sort of research projects I might be able to do that verify the claims of hobbyists scientifically. I've been searching for scientific journals with articles that are specifically about the practical care of captive newts, but I only found such articles in German.

Unfortunately the people at Petsmart are mostly irritable teenagers, and even the manager was quick in trying to blow me off. Right now their newt tank is empty as all have died or been sold to big hearted idiots such as myself (and inevitably died). I'm not sure if I even want to get into it at the local store here because I think the problem is bigger than just thoughtless teenagers. In reality, very few people seem to really care what happens to these animals. But oh well. It makes me feel better to try, even if it won't get me anywhere.
 
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