Has anyone used Triple Antibiotic Ointment

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Does anyone know how much/how often to apply the ointment?
Anyone else try it? I don't like the idea of putting petroleum on my Newt!! ;p
I see it recommended but I haven't talked to anyone that's used it before... yet.
Thanks!
:)
 
I am not familiar with the product, but after Googling and finding what I presume to be the product on Amazon it is clear that this is a human product (please correct me if I'm wrong here).

If this is the case you should not use this product on any of your animals, as it is not licensed for animal use and is therefore not clinically proven as safe for amphibians, or for any animal for that matter. You may risk the death of your animal(s), and we don't want that :(.

Unless anyone on here can prove that it is safe for amphibins I suggest that if you want to use antibiotics for your animal you need to see a vet and have them recommend or prescribe some which are appropriate for the species.
 
jane1187 said:
I am not familiar with the product, but after Googling and finding what I presume to be the product on Amazon it is clear that this is a human product (please correct me if I'm wrong here).

If this is the case you should not use this product on any of your animals, as it is not licensed for animal use and is therefore not clinically proven as safe for amphibians, or for any animal for that matter. You may risk the death of your animal(s), and we don't want that :(.

Unless anyone on here can prove that it is safe for amphibins I suggest that if you want to use antibiotics for your animal you need to see a vet and have them recommend or prescribe some which are appropriate for the species.
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People on here say to use it and it's in the medicines to use section on this site.
We don't have any amphibian vets here. It seems that there is nothing on the market made for amphibians, or approved for them.... just some fish stuff that is commonly used...
The amoxicillin people and animals use is the same thing... That had no effect on the problem spot...
Amox is supposed to cause kidney problems in them though... I read at some point.

The ointment has:
Each gram of ointment contains
polymyxin B (as sulfate) 10,000 IU (international units),
bacitracin zinc 500 IU and
gramicidin 0.25 mg.

The link to the illness page: http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/illness.shtml
 
I've used neosporin (without pain reliever) safely in the past.
 
Linus said:
I've used neosporin (without pain reliever) safely in the past.
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Was it for an injury? I'm wondering if this will even work for my problem. I thought it was the evil *shine* we'd acquired, but someone on here said it was a localized infection.
In my album there are pictures of it...

Did you use the cream or ointment? how long? how often?
Thanks. :)
 
When I had to use it, it was for an open wound on a recovered escapee. I applied it once a day with a q-tip, the newt actually got so used to it that it wouldn't resist or mind after a while. It healed up fine after a few weeks.

I believe it was ointment. This was also on a terrestrial newt.
 
Linus said:
When I had to use it, it was for an open wound on a recovered escapee. I applied it once a day with a q-tip, the newt actually got so used to it that it wouldn't resist or mind after a while. It healed up fine after a few weeks.

I believe it was ointment. This was also on a terrestrial newt.
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Thanks for getting back to me. :)
My Newt is now Terrestrial. I think he did it so I could help his spot heal. I put the neo-sporin on this morning with a Q-tip and he didn't move a bit. I've had him for 10 years, but wasn't expecting that. :p It was like he didn't care or even notice... but he's like that in the morning sometimes...
I hope it works. I worry about him to the point of stupidity.
Thanks!
:)

oh PS.
I had a baby Eft escape and she was dry like a cornflake. I wet her, and found her to be alive, amazing. She proceeded to lose her tail, right back leg, hands, feet, and top of her head and eyes. I held her in my hands for hours every day, dipped her now fungus-ed tips in Amoxicillin, left her in a tiny carrier of water overnight... repeat, repeat, watch, wait... then she, without eyeballs caught a fruit fly and ate it... then she grew back her feet, leg, hands, eyes, head, and tail. She's now 6.5 years old about... and only had 2 small signs of her past troubles: A tiny circle scar on top of her head where it cracked when she dried up, and her right back toes, the middle 2 are fused until the joint, then separate. Barely noticeable. She's also a lighter colour than the rest. Her name is Backpacker.
They have amazing ability to recover.
 
That's a cool story about the Eft, and an awesome name!

The newt I was talking about before was an escaped kaiseri, found it wriggling around covered in german shepherd hair at the bottom of a staircase, same deal.. after the neosporin treatment there was always a light patch on its head where the skin has dried and sloughed.

That's when I learned to model my enclosures after alcatraz!
 
Linus said:
That's a cool story about the Eft, and an awesome name!

The newt I was talking about before was an escaped kaiseri, found it wriggling around covered in german shepherd hair at the bottom of a staircase, same deal.. after the neosporin treatment there was always a light patch on its head where the skin has dried and sloughed.

That's when I learned to model my enclosures after alcatraz!
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:) Thanks.
Yeah, my little Newt was fuzzy too... they're the best little lint rollers ever. :rofl:
Mine got a big fungus ball on her 1/3 tail that was left and I really didn't think it would go so well. She really wanted to fight. I had a picture but can't seem to find it.

The tops I find are the best, is the Zilla mesh one. It has (for 10-20gal size) 3 hinges down the length so you can pick up the full front to do your tank stuff unhindered but it sits fully flat on the rim of the tank. Not the slightest gap, while still letting your wires out the corners. It's the only top I haven't had escapees with. :D It's heavy enough too and doesn't warp.
 
Nice lids, thanks for the tip the hinged area looks great. Good luck with your newt!
 
Hi, Me again. Sorry if I'm annoying. I'm afraid I've messed up my Newt and have no one but myself to cry to in person, so I have only this site for help... and a great help it is too... but anyway, this is my last post on a certain message thing, what do you think?

:(
I started using the antibiotic ointment yesterday, and today I came home to find it has a wound in the spot. It's a pink/orange/not black hole in the shine spot.
I can't help but think it has something to do with the ointment.
Can vitamin E be bad? It says vitamin e enriched, it's all I could find. It has no pain killer in it and another person on here says they used it successfully.

It says
Cell-active formula to prevent and reduce scarring:

vit.e
sodium pyruvate
cocoa butter
cotton seed oil
olive oil
petrolatum

Butylated hydroxytoluene - antimicrobial to prevent bacterial contamination and microbial growth.

I am so sad and upset. My poor Newt, If I caused him to have that erosion I just don't know what. :(


The whole story is here, and I might sound a bit snippy but I didn't mean to there:
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...t-salamander-help/91436-shine.html#post381028

Thanks for any feedback you might have, advise or anything in general. I just feel sick over my poor Power Newt, he's the one I've always held up and adored so much. I really just wish he'd finally get better. I worry about it so much all the time, and the spot was there for 3 years, this last year though it got worse... arg. :(

Sodium pyruvate is commonly added to cell culture media as an additional source of energy, but may also have protective effects against hydrogen peroxide. Wikipedia
 
I have read articles about vitamin E supplements being bad for humans, so I would avoid it entirely for caudata. It is fat soluble, so it easily builds up to toxic levels. As far as the other ingredients go, the only one that looks potentially dangerous to me is olive oil, which is toxic to cats. Butylated hydroxytoluene is a suspect carcinogen, but besides that I doubt it would be effective in treating wounds in caudata, it is pretty much the same as vitamin E. All of those 'anti-scar' ingredients will provide food for any bacteria in the wound resistant to the antibiotics.

If he is still alive, I think the best course of action would be refrigeration and Kanamycin or a similar aquarium antibiotic on the list of those known to be safe.
 
Hi, I was really worried for a while but he's doing great.
The spot is getting better finally, and there are no *holes* at all.
He's hunting Earth worms like a psycho. :D
He takes off after one, stomps over and gobbles it up. He's acting like he's 3 again, instead of 10. hahaah.
I'm so happy today because I just checked in on him again to clean things up and it's improving a great deal.

The only thing Vit. E isn't good for in humans is for people that have blood clotting disorders, it makes your blood not coagulate. If you're a regular user of it you can bruise more and small cuts bleed for days... not so great, but in moderation it's still more useful than not. :)

It's cold in here, I think it's worse in the livingroom than the fridge itself... :p the weather here is rotten lately...
I tried the Triple sulfa antibiotic in the water when he was aquatic and it did nothing... I tried for months, I used amoxicillin before that, and last, the API liquid fungus cure... no use... the polysporin is the only one that has helped.

I have found over the years that a lot of the commonly known or believed *facts* about Newts don't seem to apply to mine... (not saying I'm special....) Just that a lot of facts don't seem to be true. The Vodka euthanasia method was so ineffective when I had to use it, that it was torture and ended up taking over 12 hours and straight vodka at the end... horrible, horrible... also about breeding, feeding schedules, and so on...
My animals always seem to live 10 times the life expectancy too, so I usually don't seem to be doing it wrong...

Thanks for paying attention to my post!! :)
Things are looking up for Power Newt finally!!
 
My main concern with the vitamin E is that it is easy to overdose fat soluble vitamins in amphibians, and often times it is too late to do undo damage by the time you spot the symptoms. Little research has been done on their vitamin requirements, so it is mostly guess work. Amphibians will also absorb vitamins many times faster through their skin than humans, and topical cremes may contain many times the safe limit for even human ingestion.

In terms of human consumption, many recent scholarly findings have refuted the health benefits of vitamin E, or even found problems caused by them even in small doses. If you have a healthy diet, you do not need supplementation. If you don't have a healthy diet, the benefits of improving diet will far outweigh the benefits of supplementation. I'm not trying to stop your supplementation, just pointing out that there are safer and healthier alternatives, or that you could save money.

I'm glad your little guy pulled through. Good luck with your future care.
 
I did get the kind without the vit. E after a while... I just couldn't find it in Quebec and had to order it. I didn't see your reply until now. (cleaning out the email)

I have to disagree about the supplementation. There's just no way to get the nutrients out of today's food like 150 - 200 years ago. (eating 10 bowls of spinach a day doesn't sound fun to most people.) It just doesn't have much nutrient content. Eating wild weeds is better, but most people don't have access and they're more bitter... but a much much higher micro-nutrient content.
My life depends on supplements, so I stay as up to date on new info. as much as I can.
I have an immune system problem and take over 18 supplements a day. Without them I can't even stay out of bed 4 hours a day... but with them I'm improving... and a lot. :) I was supposed to take toxic pharmaceuticals and live miserably then die at 30 and I'm going to be 32 this fall. I'm curing myself from an incurable thing... with herbs and vitamins.
I eat the best I can, but with my food allergies my food items are very limited. I'm incredibly thankful for my supplements. My quality of life was miserable before and now it's very not normal, but it's definitely good enough to not give up on now at least...
I do know Vit. E is an anti-coagulant, so it can be beneficial in preventing stroke etc... but not so great if you bleed from a paper cut for 2 days... I myself don't take it.

But ok, this is about the Newt!!
He still has the patch of shiny on him and I'm not really sure the spot is getting better now. The holes and damaged parts are gone, but the shiny bit is still there.
I'm really trying, but I don't know.
He hunts Earth worms regularly, since I found a lot that were the right size recently... he acts like a normal Newt more or less... (for him anyway) He's stompy and likes his privacy... But I guess I just have to wait. :confused:
I'm moving this week and everything is a mess, I want to get him to the new place as easily as possible without making anything worse or having any disasters!!
Trying to be hopeful :D
 
Oh and I'm the queen of saving money, I lived on $20/Week for a long long long time and didn't starve. Lol... I grow some of my own food too... I'm not sure anyone could survive well with as little as I was... but I'm really good at it.
Everything with me is about pinching $$ My supplements are hundreds of dollars in Quebec, but online they're manageable... I've had this for over 13 years...
 
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