Gravid, or not? (C. orientalis)

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Heya,

I can't tell if my c.o. is gravid or not, but she is considerable fatter than her siblings.



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Here she is compared to her siblings, another female. smaller on older.

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So what do you think? Any comments would be very helpful, thanx

~John
 
Hey John,
She looks gravid. How old is she and what do the males look like? Go to the Home Page under FAQ "Scientific & Reproductive" click on "sexing newts"...Jen did a great job breaking down various species of male and female characteristics when they are gravid and ready to reproduce. Your males will definitely be smaller with an enlarge cloaca.
}She may be near gravid...she could get a whole lot bigger. Look at behavior...are they on the bottom noising around with the male in front? I keep Cynops pyrrhogaster and ensicauda, that may be different than C.o. BTW...it can take weeks or months before she may lay eggs or she may absorb them if no available male is ready or environment is not adequate. Good luck, hope it works out for you.
 
She has been like this for some time. Her "mate" is very small campared to her. Yes I can't tell wether or not he is ready to breed but I was pretty sure she is..Thanx a bunch Al.

~John
 
Sorry forgott. I have had them for 1 year now. I have only noticed her haging around in the plants, but no eggs have apeerd. I thinkshe is just warming up, for this is her first time
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Do you have a photo of her in the water? She looks pretty plump to me.

The male coming into breeding condition will be very obvious though.
 
That'd be cool if you get some eggs from her soon, John.

Have you just got the one male there?
 
Yes it would. I have been hoping to get my ands on some sort of a morphing newt.

~John
 
I am trying to induce some courtship. I have a fan blowing over the top. The temp in the tank is now 60F I was wondering how long should I keep them this way. And do I let them heat up. Then they start the breeding, or.... What?

~John
 
I do not have Cynops o., but my other cynops species will breed with little part on mine.
I know light cycles and temperature will get them going. If you have the room at 60F, keep the light cycle short, 8 hours. IF they have a window, near the tank that gets light, use the tank light even less.
We had an ice storm 3 years ago and lost power and heat for 7 days. My tanks in my tank room had no filtration, no light, and the temperatures were low 38-42F. After the power came on, the room gradually heated up (have the ducts closed in winter) and it took another week to get back up to high 60's. Almost every species bred that year! with in months, I had eggs and larva everywhere. Each species is different, but light and temperature cycles, can do the trick. BTW...some live plants don't like it much...
 
I would say keep them at 60F (or lower) all winter, if you possibly can. And I agree with Al, reduce their light cycle.
 
Ok and how do I " reduce their lite cycle" ?

~John

(Message edited by Johntee on December 05, 2005)
 
It depends on what they currently get. If you have them in a room with windows, thats is "natural light". That is currently reducing the photoperiod naturally (because it's near winter). If you also use a tank light, how long do you keep it on? Cut back by 1 hour every 2-3 days of your tank light. Until you get to around 8 hours total. If their is a lot of natural light in the room (many south facing windows), nix the tank light altogether, or for just an hour around feeding time.
I have all my lights on a timer. I allow 3-4 hours of morning light from the window, then the tank lights come on for a period of time, then shut off. In the summer I keep the total photo period to around 12 hours. In the winter it is around 8 hours.
Feed them minimally as well. If you feed 3 times a week, cut back to 1-2 times. Do this for 4-6 weeks and then gradually increase the total photo period time. I usually do a water change, and add 1-2 more inches of water from the original water line on the tank during refilling. I feed 3-4 times a week and give them a variety. What you are doing is creating "spring time", rainy, increased water, warmer, more light, and lots of food. Each species is different. Spanish ribbed newts, just need a good water change, and an increase in food and that seems to work. Some newts need a hibernation period of very low temperatures, where the keepers pack them away in wet moss in their refrigerator. It really depends on the species and their natural history. Good luck.
Al
 
Actually, just a side note. Becareful with natural light, since that really get you lot of algae. Unless you love it.
 
Thanks, Ian, thanks Al. I Am currently

- Feeding blood worms, I don't have anything else
- I have blocked some natural light, and i leave the tanks light off as much as possible..
- I have a fan blowing over the top, and yes, I add fresh water when some has evaporated..

What else should I be doing?

Ps, I am feeding them every other day.. should I make it less frequent?

~John
 
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