Feeding baby Cynops

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felipe

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Hi, I'm about to get 25 baby cynops!!! The man that have them say that they have 3cm, they are terrestrial and had morphed completly a few days ago.... the question is... HOW WILL I FEED THIS CREATURES????? Here in Brazil, almost all the baby cynops borned die! Everyone avoid to have them because of it! Frozen Bloodworms will do well?? And Little beetle larvae?? And dont have too many choices!! Help please!!!
 
25 little mouths to feed, thats going to be alot of work on your part!
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Ive been feeding the morphs I bought off of a fellow member by tweezer. I thaw out some small bloodworm cubes and just pinch a little bit with the tweezers and hand feed each one. Im not in the same boat as you as I only have 7 to feed that way. Are you raising them terrestrially or semi-aquatic?
 
It depends on how much time and patience you have. You can train some or most of them to eat frozen bloodworm fed by hand, but it takes a lot of practice. Since you're taking on so many at once, I'd separate those who feed readily when fed by hand from those who don't. That way, you can manage your time better. When you don't have much time, you can quickly feed those that readily eat hand-fed food and fatten them up, while working on a couple of the others, and later when you have sufficient time, you can concentrate on "training" the other reluctant ones to do so. It's better to have at least several well-fed, strong ones with good survival prospects than have all of them skinny, hungry, and just barely hanging on the edge of survival day after day. Once they become weak, it's all the harder to get them to eat sometimes.

I don't suppose you have access to very small wax worms? I regularly order away for and use them and pinhead crickets mainly for morphs. Also possible is beefheart and liver, chopped earthworms, balls of tubifex worms, etc. And all sorts of tiny insects that you can find in say forest soil.

But if you have no experience with feeding morphs yet, then take on only a few -- unless, as you suggest, they're destined to die in other hands and you're willing and able to put in the required effort. Good luck with them!

<font size="-2">PS -- I modified your thread title as shouts for help, multiple exclamation marks, that sort of thing are not really acceptable in the species & genus discussions part of the forum -- common as they may be in the "Newt and Salamander Help" section of the site</font>
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(Message edited by TJ on January 12, 2006)
 
I am raising them terrestially. And same as Danny, frozen blood worm should work. But you got to be patient. For the first few weeks, they might not be willing to eat.
I also culture some springtails and added in the containers just in case some small morphs really need something to fill up the stomach.

Not like all of you. I have 50 of them..... however, once they got used to the feeding, they always look up to the top as if to see if anymore food will come down soon.
 
Try handfeeding (and try again and again). Any morphs that accept food this way, separate them into a different container and continue to feed them by hand. Use bloodworms or tiny pieces of earthworm.

The others, provide live fruit flies (Drosophila) or springtails. Try the beetle larvae, but I don't know if those are good or not.

Good luck, Filipe!
 
Hey guys! Im luck! If the secret is having patience, I will try it! Because I am very patient and I handfeed all my newts/salamanders every day (and some of them where very stuborn in the begginig!!!)! I dont like to trow the food and wait... but all they are juvenilles/adults, not babies! I will try to take about 10 of them, because 25 is too much for me! I dont want little ones dying in my hands!!!!! But i'm afraid that they will die in other hands... And they are very expensive around here! like any kind of caudate!!! Tim, i dont have access to these worms... but pinhead crickets I can find! And Danny, the man who have it is raising them terrestrially ! Thanks everyone!!!! I think I will try the handfeeding with frozen bloodworm! If you have any more advices, please, tell me!
 
Hey Felipe,
I think Tim has a good point with separating them by feeding ability. It also depends on what species of Cynops. I have found keeping them in a complete terrestrial setup is very difficult. I am now convinced if you use floating cork bark pieces over 50% of a aquatic setup, they will stay semiaquatic and thus easier to feed. I tried fruit fly cultures that was very cumbersome, and I felt they did not get the nutritional impact like other foods (black worms, blood worms, beef heart). If you can get a hold of some beef heart and slice it with a scaple/razor into small long pieces, this can give you a break from other foods that may not be available at certain time. Beef heart can freeze well too. You can try fruit fly culture too, but as a supplement. Springtails appear to be very tiny. You need about a good 3 months of patience, and then they should get established. I had some Cynops breed after 1 year of hatching from an egg!
I think separating the thin and weak eaters will keep your colony free of disease as well. I know you hate the thought of loosing any, but taking on a handful of juvenile cynops can be a big task, and you may loose some despite your best efforts. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
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