Does anyone can tell me which species about this 2 European newt!

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My friend send me some European newt but I don't know well about these newts, so if anyone know it please tell me know it's latin name, thank you!
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The top two pictures look like Cynops pyrrhogaster (from Japan, not Europe). The bottom two pictures are of a crested newt, Triturus. I would guess at Triturus carnifex over cristatus or dobrogicus but they are highly variable and it could be either of them. There are people here who know them well enough to tell one from the other. Hopefully one will spot this...
 
Why carnifex? I think it is dobrogicus based on body shape.
 
Joseph, I dare say you're right, it may well be dobrogicus. I'm no expert as I said. T.dobrogicus normally has reduced markings along the dorsum whereas the animal pictured has even spotting throughout the dorsum. T.dobrogicus is slimmer than other triturus but that's not to say it isn't a carnifex in need of a good meal....
 
It's a T. dobrogicus, the body is too long for a T. carnifex. Funny to see how this species keeps appearing all over the world, I also saw them for sale in Japan this year.

I'm not sure about the race of the Cynops pyrrhogaster, the belly markings look really strange.
 
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