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Cynops pyrrhogaster
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amazing animal Tim, great pics
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Thanks Mark, But the pics really don't do this one justice. The luscious red is really, really seductive. I've been thinking about this one all day, in fact
It's the best C.p I've ever seen. Wish I knew where it came from. It came as part of a pair. I think it's the female of the two but I haven't checked closely yet. The other is also nice, but not AS nice. I'm gonna stuff these guys full of bloodworm over the coming weeks, cool them down for a month or two and then pray for eggs.
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mark
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good luck then Tim, hope you get some breeding success with these little guys.
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jesper
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Hi Tim!
Love the red colour almost glow in the dark warning on that one!
Thanks for sharing!
Love the red colour almost glow in the dark warning on that one!
Thanks for sharing!
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ralf
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Hey Tim,
some things you might want to consider for breeding.
1. Cool them down to at least 10 deg. C. for several weeks.
2. Continue to feed carefully (if they eat) and check condition at least daily.
3. Separate the sexes for the cooling period and put them together in a breeding setup with lots of "walking" and "fanning" space when temperatures rise and the male has reached full breeding condition.
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some things you might want to consider for breeding.
1. Cool them down to at least 10 deg. C. for several weeks.
2. Continue to feed carefully (if they eat) and check condition at least daily.
3. Separate the sexes for the cooling period and put them together in a breeding setup with lots of "walking" and "fanning" space when temperatures rise and the male has reached full breeding condition.
Ralf
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Thanks for those tips Ralf. A couple questions:
* will the male reach full breeding condition without the presence of females?
* need I wait until then to join them together?
* will the male reach full breeding condition without the presence of females?
* need I wait until then to join them together?
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Tim,
the male will reach breeding condition without the presence of the female. You might want to exchange a little bit of water between tanks though, in case pheromones are involved. Might be superstition, it's effectiveness has been proven for fishes in hatcheries though. Idea is not to exhaust the male with any preliminary "action" if the female is not ready yet.
Put them together when the male shows the typical breeding "signs" and the female obviously has eggs respectively is plump. You can also establish sight contact in advance by putting the tanks side by side and watch for the reaction of the male.
Sound cruel to you? Not at all. It often seems to be the case with a lot of aquatic animals that the breeding season of the males exceeds that of the females respectively, especially with caudates, that the males arrive early in crowds at the breeding sites/ponds. Whereas the females join them individually when ready (to ovulate).
Believe me, they'll be delighted to meet again in spring.
Ralf
the male will reach breeding condition without the presence of the female. You might want to exchange a little bit of water between tanks though, in case pheromones are involved. Might be superstition, it's effectiveness has been proven for fishes in hatcheries though. Idea is not to exhaust the male with any preliminary "action" if the female is not ready yet.
Put them together when the male shows the typical breeding "signs" and the female obviously has eggs respectively is plump. You can also establish sight contact in advance by putting the tanks side by side and watch for the reaction of the male.
Sound cruel to you? Not at all. It often seems to be the case with a lot of aquatic animals that the breeding season of the males exceeds that of the females respectively, especially with caudates, that the males arrive early in crowds at the breeding sites/ponds. Whereas the females join them individually when ready (to ovulate).
Believe me, they'll be delighted to meet again in spring.
Ralf
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Ralf, thanks for the info & inspiration. Sure you don't actually work at a fertility clinic?!
I've just cleared away 2 1/2 years of junk and crud from my veranda and now have open space out there, as well as five empty 10-gallon tanks that are available for "cooling" the good breeding prospects among my newts this winter. A few more questions:
* do they typically winter in the water? (I've seen them thus here in Japan)
* it is OK for the water to get as cold as it gets so long as it doesn't ice over (again, I've seen them in bodies of water in snowy areas of Japan in the dead of winter)
* would it be OK to keep several males in one tank and several females in the other, or might this somehow dampen their enthusiasm, divert their focus, whatever
(perhaps you could at least tell me how this works with fish)
* what is the minimum temperature at which the male would typically show breeding signs and the female develop eggs?
No, I won't feel too sorry for them, esp. as I've experienced the winter blues myself, only to have romantic prospects pick up in the spring
I've just cleared away 2 1/2 years of junk and crud from my veranda and now have open space out there, as well as five empty 10-gallon tanks that are available for "cooling" the good breeding prospects among my newts this winter. A few more questions:
* do they typically winter in the water? (I've seen them thus here in Japan)
* it is OK for the water to get as cold as it gets so long as it doesn't ice over (again, I've seen them in bodies of water in snowy areas of Japan in the dead of winter)
* would it be OK to keep several males in one tank and several females in the other, or might this somehow dampen their enthusiasm, divert their focus, whatever
* what is the minimum temperature at which the male would typically show breeding signs and the female develop eggs?
No, I won't feel too sorry for them, esp. as I've experienced the winter blues myself, only to have romantic prospects pick up in the spring
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Hi Tim,
some answers:
it is okay to cool them down in an aquatic setup,
they can cope with temps lower than 10 deg. C. (as long as there is no ice on the water),
it is okay to keep several males (females) together during cooling period,
males will show breeding signs even at low temps as also the length of daylight and your newts' internal biological clock influences this, thus breeding signs might even develop during winter with some individuals,
your females should be developing eggs already in fall. The eggs will ripen and increase in size in spring.
Read out this advice aloud to your animals, so they will have the chance to follow it.
Hopefully you wont have to delay your winter blues till spring if none of this helps.
Ralf
some answers:
it is okay to cool them down in an aquatic setup,
they can cope with temps lower than 10 deg. C. (as long as there is no ice on the water),
it is okay to keep several males (females) together during cooling period,
males will show breeding signs even at low temps as also the length of daylight and your newts' internal biological clock influences this, thus breeding signs might even develop during winter with some individuals,
your females should be developing eggs already in fall. The eggs will ripen and increase in size in spring.
Read out this advice aloud to your animals, so they will have the chance to follow it.
Ralf
